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Offline flankyou

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Does breakpoints = cheerleaders?
« on: August 06, 2017, 12:14:30 AM »
Just wanted to know other's experiences in using break points for victory purposes. It seems, from a list building perspective, it rewards taking a lot of cheap chaff units to increase your break point size, and hanging them in the backfield out of danger, while your uber units do the heavy lifting. Basically hiring "cheerleaders" in a sense..

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Re: Does breakpoints = cheerleaders?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2017, 01:21:23 PM »
Putting aside the horde armies, yes, some players deliberately create 'break inflation' brigades to sit at the back and watch the fight.  But it can be high risk because any decent opponent will target them ruthlessly as they are always rather squishy.  So the counter to that sort of deep strike is to protect them with something harder, but that has to come from the main fighting force thereby reducing the combat power at the front.  That said, the WMR optional Scouting Rules mean that sometimes the 'light forces' have already achieved their mission by the start of the game?  Overall, it's something that you do see quite a bit, but it doesn't seem to cause much of a problem in terms of game balance.
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Re: Does breakpoints = cheerleaders?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2017, 05:55:48 PM »
I understand. So far that's been my experience as well, albeit limited.

Has anyone tried just doing straight points as break limit instead of # of units? So you'd have to kill 1000 pts worth in a 2000pt game. Yes it's cumbersome and requires some book-keeping, but would possibly give elite forces a fairer shake.

Either that or just have some kind of objective scoring scenarios where army points don't even matter.

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Re: Does breakpoints = cheerleaders?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2017, 05:53:47 PM »
a thousand points for some, Chaos, could only be a few units......hero on a dragon, dragon ogres and a unit of knights and then 2 marauder infantry.  for scenarios you can do anything you want but victory points and break points are the normal 2 calculators for who won