Tale of Warmaster Painters [October]

[lilith]

today's update , and for now if finished i'm waiting some other stuff arrive from ebay
black orc and charchter on chariot

[jchaos79]

pw is right... what happen with orc mates, they do not sleep at night

Great lilith and Azrael, lots of boars everey where!

M4jumbo, I did not say in last post the great look of the black/red uniform. In my opinion an orange/red mix could highlight the red, but these will give to the unit another look, and as it is now match perfect with the dark/mate aspect of your Ostland army.

Have you think about your general/heros. Latly I've been reading empire armybook of 5 edition, and I see Ostland linked to hammerers of the white wolf. Maybe a head swap conversion with a flagellant to an imperial guy... don't know.... lets see... an artillery crew (the guy with the sword pointing) could be a good chance, just an idea.

great work M4jumbo!

[Stomm]

I think I should have done a wash on the red uniforms to give it more depth.  Oh well. 

Unless you've varnished them you still can. Looks to me like scab red, or possibly red gore straight over the black undercoat right? Well if you want to keep the dark red look, I'd suggest highlighting with blood red, then a light scab red/chaos black wash over the top. If you're looking for a more 'classic' bright-ish red, then do a fuller highlight with blood red, final highlights with blazing organge and then wash it with the new GW red wash.

I have to say that I really liked the GW foundation paints when they came out, and now that I've bought some of the new washes, well they are bloody good, certainly for WM scale clothing, metal and so on. I'm not too keen on the new flesh wash though, its a bit too light in my view, I like to have much more contrast than that on my faces, especially on WM figures...

[Lex]

As I indicated before I am trying a new painting procedure using Armypainter, and decided to prepare the horsearchers, archers and some characters, before giving them all the Armypainter treatment. This stuff below is ready for its "dip", and I wanted to show this stage to allow those interested to compare.

One of the two bear-mounted shamans in the Force



Infantry



General



Cav unit




and to show that I did indeed spend time preping several unts, here the entire force of "horsearchers

[azrael71]

More great work, I love those guards mjumbo, very nice.
As for orc painters, doesn't matter what the army is I just paint fast 

[Stomm]

I can paint fast, but it needs to be 2am the night before an event, I need to be drunk, and I need to be in a hotel room with a dark carpet so that the ink and paints I spill won't show up...



the required combination of criteria as not been met for quite a few years...

[jchaos79]

Here is it a unit of funerary swarm, those plague crawling and emerging from the sand that announce the arrival of the undead army

I post our house rules in warmaster discussion, please feel free to coment or give feedback about the rules in these threat and here post about painting, basing and figures

[azrael71]

Love those scarabs, where did you get them from?

[jchaos79]

I love them too 
They are from Reaper miniatures, called Scarab Beetle
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/swarm

Also have some very nice packs of Familiars, with little animals (for 28mm) that in warmaster gets as big animals. I have a couple of ideas to carry on with some of this animals, but they are a source of ideas for mythology or fantasy.
I particulary like a winged cat, I see it quite egyptian but not really for undead theme, so I will wait until I do some Mythological egyptian army. Also have an owl for the mythological greek (Athens) and a little dragon with insect wings that is one of my favourites. Uups I start again out topic!

[Stomm]

Just a quick update on my progress before I rush off to get the girl's packed lunch ready and try to get them to nursery on time. Then if I can spend any time painting whilst they're there, obviously I will...

Anyway, I couldn't help myself. I tried to paint my Romans with them all already glued to their bases, but I just can't get to the 2nd rank sheilds, and they are the most important part of the model for Romans and indeed many historical figures IMHO. So for the unit I've been working on, I've clipped the rear rank models from the stand that I've almost finished, and in doing so I doubt that I'll be able to resist painting their toes, sorting out the pilum shafts and so on....

So, in addition to maybe only getting 1/2-1 hours painting time each day, I now have finally succumbed to my own perfectionist tendencies. They're not going to be the best I can do, but they'll be better and therefore slower than I had intended...




As an aside. Those of you who base up their figures after painting them, I guess those that paint the strips seperately. How do you go about basing them? For Warmaster strips I imagine it is fairly simple, glue the sand on with only one strip attached, ensuring that you have a straight line to but the next strip up to. However with historical figures, they're all individual, so I don't think that is really going to be an option. Basically I am just concerned that dry-brushing it after it's all been painted might ruin my paintjob. I normally apply the sand to the bases of my WM figures prior to undercoating you see, and its been a long while since I've painted anything in strips, etc...

[jchaos79]

If it can help, I paint/base my figures following this steps. (next time I will make some pics):

1- attach the single model to a old paint can with blue-takk.
2- undercoat + painting + varnishing
3- Undercoat the base with green
4- Spread withe glue (use by carpenter) all over the base
5- put cyanocrilate glue onto the base of the metal figure and leave it on the base in the correct place
6- when it is done for the 8/10 figures introduce in a cap with the flock/grass and cover all the figures
7- wait 4-5 hours, and shake slightly to remove the non adhered flock

Problem: During the process of leaving the figure on the base, if you correct his position or you have put exceed of cyanocrilate glue could happen: The cyanocrilate spreds onto the white glue and cure very quickly so when you dip the base into the grass/flock it is dry and do not adhere grass.


Solution: when it is dry and solid as a rock, put a little of white glue on the spot and throw some grass on it.

reallity: I am too lazy to do that. when happen dont bother me enough. (in one of arquebusiers from pavia in jchaos proyect happens that in the frontal  extreme left dude)


hope that helps

[Stomm]

Well I definately want to add sand, paint it brown and so on before adding any static grass. It gives the best effect IMHO. I am just wondering if there are any tricks to doing so after you've painted the figures without getting the base colours all over your figures short of being very, very careful with your brush, and of course using a very small brush, most likely a cut down old GW Fine Detail Brush...

[Lex]

Well I definately want to add sand, paint it brown and so on before adding any static grass. It gives the best effect IMHO. I am just wondering if there are any tricks to doing so after you've painted the figures without getting the base colours all over your figures short of being very, very careful with your brush, and of course using a very small brush, most likely a cut down old GW Fine Detail Brush...

If you use sand on Elmer's, then dont paint, but soak. You need a bit darker colour, cause the bleed from soaking then stand will tend to create a lighter teint of the actual colour used !

[Stomm]

Well I definately want to add sand, paint it brown and so on before adding any static grass. It gives the best effect IMHO. I am just wondering if there are any tricks to doing so after you've painted the figures without getting the base colours all over your figures short of being very, very careful with your brush, and of course using a very small brush, most likely a cut down old GW Fine Detail Brush...

If you use sand on Elmer's, then dont paint, but soak. You need a bit darker colour, cause the bleed from soaking then stand will tend to create a lighter teint of the actual colour used !

Are you talking about not undercoating black, or any colour at all, but instead effectively giving the base a good soaking in say the old brown ink?

[Lex]

Well I definately want to add sand, paint it brown and so on before adding any static grass. It gives the best effect IMHO. I am just wondering if there are any tricks to doing so after you've painted the figures without getting the base colours all over your figures short of being very, very careful with your brush, and of course using a very small brush, most likely a cut down old GW Fine Detail Brush...

If you use sand on Elmer's, then dont paint, but soak. You need a bit darker colour, cause the bleed from soaking then stand will tend to create a lighter teint of the actual colour used !

Are you talking about not undercoating black, or any colour at all, but instead effectively giving the base a good soaking in say the old brown ink?

As you see from the current state of my bases I dont usualy undercaot my groundwoek black. I will use a combination of Elmers and fine-graind (floral) sand to shape the base, and the mixture will soak and spear a diluted paint or ink, giving you a nice (and unevenly) spraed colour to work the rest of the base on