The BFG: Expanded Revised Rules Thread (New Years 2022 Update!)

[horizon]

And yet many people still believe 2010 is official, when it isn't.

Plus, I think part of Lotus's point was that putting a year without qualifier makes it seem like it is generally accepted, aside from whether it is official or not.  MMS and 2 hit escorts may be widely used, but I wouldn't be brave enough to say they are generally accepted (for instance, I don't accept either).

Since Xca|iber's project is based on BFG:R, which I think can be safely described as a minority adopted rules set, I don't think Lotus is entirely off the mark.  But, as I indicated, I'm not sure how many other ways the file can be named.

People who do not accept MMS will be banned within two days.


 

Just kidding. I agree on the naming part. But on the other end it is a bit fuzz on nothing much.

Lets call it BFG:R digital remastered edition.

[Xca|iber]

Thanks for all the replies everyone!

Definitely some good points brought up all around. I agree that leaving the year in the project title is confusing for a number of reasons, so I'll be leaving it out.

Based on everyone's suggestions, it looks like I should go with something that references BFG:R, the project's expanded or experimental nature, and/or its function as a compilation. I definitely like the idea of BFG:R - Digital Remastered Edition (thanks horizon!  ) although BFG:R Expanded also has a nice succinct ring to it.

For those of you who like word-play, BFG:R - Expanded | Remastered (although a long title), could be abbreviated as BFG:R - X|R Edition, which looks like my username... But that's a bit of a mouthful I think. 

In any case, I should have a new title by the New Year, and I'll be back from vacation to get working on the next faction codex (maybe Tau, but I'll likely bite the bullet and start on Imperial Navy).

Thanks and Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays Everyone! 

[Gorlak]

First of all, I want to reiterate what a great job you've done with this Xca|iber. Having a compendium like this has gotten passed the barriers that were preventing 4 others in my gaming group playing BFG. It had been an ambition of mine to do what you're doing, as started here in 2013..., but real life just got on the way and I never finished it. I was using Indesign and it was quite a bit of work! Incidentally, if you want any help with this, such as general formatting and page numbers etc, just say the word.

Anyway, reason for posting was a naming suggestion. What about Battlefleet Gothic: Community Edition? That's what Necromunda has been using for several years and I feel they've set a great precedent for continued development and presentation of a specialist game system. That's what I'd always wanted to get towards.

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[Lotus]

"Community" would suggest that "THE comunity", or "almost everyone out there" is using this rules, which is not the case. "BFG:R - X|R" sounds fine.

[Gorlak]

That did cross my mind as I was typing the post above, I did wonder if it would be taken that way.

Alternatively then, we could use a similar method to the 'fan-edit' film community. They take a film or films (such as Star Wars) and create there own edits of them which are named after the individual who made it, e.g the 'Star Wars- Harmy Despecialized Edition', or 'Star Wars - Q2 Fanedit'. They give full credit to the edits that they use as a source in the release notes, which could also happen in this case to acknowledge BFG:R.

So, something like 'Battlefleet Gothic: Xca|iber Edition', shortened to BFG:XE. This then represents your interpretation / edition of the game, one I happen to like, agree with and support, but it doesn't make any particular claim to be THE rule set universally adopted by community or otherwise.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

BFG: 2015 Community Update?

[Bessemer]

I think BFG: Community Edition would be the way to go, possibly adding year/version number. Easy for the rest us to say as we're not the ones writing it up:s

[LeperColony]

What's wrong with BFG Xcaliber edition or even just BFG Xcaliber?  That makes it clear it's unofficial and specific, whereas Community Edition really does sound universal.

[Lotus]

Hm. I can just repeat: "community" in the name would suggest that almost everyone is using it, and that is just not the case.

Something with the username in it is just fine, no false interpretations possible.

[Gun_wun]

Juz stick it in da gut............ Iz say "BFG X"  Fast an simple like.  It gives credit to da Maker Mek an at da same time it tells ya wot it is.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Name aside, when do you estimate the project will be done?

[Chios]

Personally I would favor the BFG X name, for its simplicity as well as the fact that it sorta contains the credits as well.
Just some small issue to consider: imagine someone hears about it and googles it.
"BFG X" will yield results for a series of handgranades fabricated in the UK.
"BFG:X" will yield results for a tank for the game War Commander.

So to establish this set of PDFs as the new community standard (which i think this effort may well deserve) it might need to have a more easily distinguishable name.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

So what google comes up with is something to consider. I do still like BFG Xcaliber, but that may not rign true with people looking to try new rules as in "Oh, this is just same random interpretation" when it really isn't..

As for the arguments against the "Community" edition, Necromunda Community Edition doesn't represent the whole community. BFG:FR doesn't represent all of France. I think people will understand that it is a community developed version, but not necessarily everyone.

HOWEVER why not look to the fluff for a name
Battlefleet Gothic: Black Stone Edition
Battlefleet Gothic: Flag Captain's Compendium
Battlefleet Gothic: Ravensburg Edition
Battlefleet Gothic: Port Maw Compendium

You know, something like that?

[MaWo79]

Yeah, I like the idea. BTW: It's funny but somehow these names sound even more "official" than everything else

[Lotus]

BFG:FR doesn't represent all of France. I think people will understand that it is a community developed version, but not necessarily everyone.

But i still got the impression that BFG:FR is accepted by almost everyone in france. Which is not true, but it shows that "BFG:FR" can mislead people.

Repeating a mistake, because someone else has made the same mistake...