ASC 2.0 Chaos Development

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

The TE MoN still says no boarding in BFG:R

[Bessemer]

Correct!
 I thought that the Hives Of Nurgle, rather than the Mark, had been given the whole no boarding thing. Couldn't find anything to support that, though.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

How is this?
Changed Hives to S7, Turns to 90*, Shields to 1, May not be boarded, and went with 140 pts

Pestilaan Class Light Cruiser- 140
Hits: 7
Speed: 20cm
Turns: 90*
Shields: 1
Armour: 5+
Turrets: 2
Weapons:
Port Hives of Nurgle- R: 30cm S:7 Arc: L
Stbd Hives of Nurgle- R: 30cm S:7 Arc: R
Prow Torpedoes- R: 30cm S: 4 Arc: F
Notes: MoN (included in profile). May not be boarded. Hives of Nurgle function exactly like Terminus Est. May only be taken in Plague Fleets of Nurgle or fleets where over ½ of the vessels have the MoN. May not be taken in fleets where a vessel has the MoT. These restrictions are lifted for fleets led by Abaddon.

[TheIronPrice]

Looks good.  The 20cm is still jarring for a cl. But that's on me.

[Bessemer]

Agreed, looks good. 20cm isn't that bad. My Repulsive still manages to keep up

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

The 20cm owes to the fluff of the pestilaan and the fact it should be the heaviest of the CL and more of a mini-ship of the line than a flank fighter. It still has a 90* turn making it more manueverable

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Although thinking on it, I am liking 20cm less and less as well.

What about 25cm instead, but make it 3d6 AAF?

[TheIronPrice]

Nah it fits. Like I said it's just a personal foible.  It's good the way it is.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

What  gives me pause now is that it is slower than IN CLs, but if there is concurrence then no worries I guess

[TheIronPrice]

It's also a lot beefier than IN CLs. With the torpedos and MoN it punches above its weight class but not in a munchkin way.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Apostate Class Heavy Raider- 55
Hits: Escort/2
Speed: 25cm
Turns: 90*
Shields: 1
Armour: 5+
Turrets: 1
Weapons:
Weapons Battery- R: 30cm S:2 Arc: L/F/R
Prow Lance- R:45cm S1 Arc: L/F/R
Prow Torpedoes- R: 30cm S: 2 Arc: F
Notes: Not automatically destroyed by a critical hit like 1 hit escorts.

[Bessemer]

Reduce the Lance to 30cm, and it looks OK. Maybe even make the Lance fwd only for 50 pts?

[TheIronPrice]

I agree knock it down to 30cm, but keep it as a turret. The reduced range should justify the points cost. Actually, now that I think about it, is there a drawing available for it?

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Apostate Class Heavy Raider- 50
Hits: Escort/2
Speed: 25cm
Turns: 90*
Shields: 1
Armour: 5+
Turrets: 1
Weapons:
Weapons Battery- R: 30cm S:2 Arc: L/F/R
Prow Lance- R:30cm S1 Arc: L/F/R
Prow Torpedoes- R: 30cm S: 2 Arc: F
Notes: Not automatically destroyed by a critical hit like 1 hit escorts.

The picture is in the old school ASC. It is exactly like an Infidel with a lance turret on the bow.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

The Night Hag (CH, SM or RT)- 290
Hits: 8
Speed: 25cm
Turns: 45*
Shields: 3
Armour: 6+
Turrets: 3
Weapons:
Port Weap Battery- R: 45cm  S: 6 Arc: L
Stbd Weap Battery- R: 45 cm  S: 6 Arc: L
Dorsal Lance Battery- R: 45cm S: 3 Arc: L/F/R
Prow Launch Bay- (RT) Standard Fight/Bomber/AB S:3 (SM&CH) Thunderhawks S: 2
Macrocannonades- R:30cm S: 6 Arc: F
Special Rules: Space Marine Crew MUST be taken by SM and Chaos fleets. See fleet list for cost. Macrocannonades may not be combined with WB, however they function the exact same but may Reroll failed attempts to equal or beat the chosen target's armour. Additionally, Blast Markers from a Macrocannonade MUST remain on the table at least until the end of the Firing Unit players next turn.
Darkling Engines- For every direct hit scored against the Night Hag (ie anything that does not use templates, pass through blast markers, hit and run attacks, critical damage, other ships catastrophic damage) roll a D6. On a 6, ignore the hit.