Heresy era ship drawings in FW "Extermination" book!

[timdp]

Fourth image down. Cobra destroyer included for scale.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/Isstvan_Campaign.html

[timdp]

Hmmm... "All ships shown at constant scale."

Scaling the Cobra in the image up to its BFG length of 1.25" makes the battle barge 7.25" long (2 1/8" longer than the BFG model) and makes the Iron Blood 16" long! Scaling up to real life at 1:56,000 gives a length of 24,086 meters or just over 24 kms. Seems a mite large for both ships...

If we scale the image to the length of a BFG battle barge (5.125"), the Iron Blood drops to 11.375", making it 16,333 meters (16 1/3 kms).

[timdp]

Contrador text:

"The Contrador
Battle Barge of the Iron Warriors

At the Battle of Phall, the "Legates" class battle barge Contrador was commanded by the Iron Warriors war leader Erasmus(?) Colg, who was the commander of the Legion's 11th company. Typical of the warships of the Iron Warriors grand fleet, the Contrador's already formidable armor and weapons were heavily enhanced over many decades of service. What she sacrificed in speed and maneuverability she more than gained in raw strength, as befitting the bellicose and stoic nature of the Iron Warriors themselves. Despite her extensive modifications, the Contrador conformed to a pattern that was coming into use throughout the war fleets of the Legiones Astartes at the time of the Battle of Phall and which would become a familiar class of battle barge in the coming years."


Also from the table of contents:
"Warships of the Great Crusade p15"

[Malika]

Hmmm... "All ships shown at constant scale."

Scaling the Cobra in the image up to its BFG length of 1.25" makes the battle barge 7.25" long (2 1/8" longer than the BFG model) and makes the Iron Blood 16" long! Scaling up to real life at 1:56,000 gives a length of 24,086 meters or just over 24 kms. Seems a mite large for both ships...

If we scale the image to the length of a BFG battle barge (5.125"), the Iron Blood drops to 11.375", making it 16,333 meters (16 1/3 kms).

That's kinda the problem with BFG itself not having a constant scale. Escorts use a different scale that cruisers, and they again have a different scale from battleships. Ordnance also has multiple scales of its own.

[horizon]

The Ironblood is one ugly looking vessel....

 

[Malika]

I'm not fully gettting that Earthshaker like cannon on the Tribune. But it seems to be a bit of a nod to the Spacefleet era designs perhaps?

[Zarathustra Sucuine]

Whilst it is unlikely, am I the only one hoping FW may restart BFG as part of the horus heresy? I would love a model of the Tribune, and again whilst unlikely, I could see a "Battle of Phal" or "Escape from Isstavaan" bow being a nice way of redoing it possibly.

[timdp]

Whilst it is unlikely, am I the only one hoping FW may restart BFG as part of the horus heresy? I would love a model of the Tribune, and again whilst unlikely, I could see a "Battle of Phal" or "Escape from Isstavaan" bow being a nice way of redoing it possibly.

Looks to me like the Tribune is basically a Vengeance class grand cruiser. The upper rear hull is a badly drawn version of the Vengeance rear hull and the prow is a slightly modified version of the Vengeance class prow. Remove the spacer/tower between the Vengeance weapons bays and you are pretty close to the Tribune. Replace the upper Chaos style weapons bays with whatever all that stuff is on the upper hull and add some weapons batteries to the bottom of the hull and you are pretty much there.

Tim

[Zarathustra Sucuine]

I can see how it is converted, and that's what I thought the rear looked like, but I'm more hoping it may give FW an excuse to produce a boxed game similar to space hulk with some of these ships in to give me ways to get more grand crusiers without the depths of ebay :p

[AndrewChristlieb]

Im sorry, is that a turret mounted nova cannon...  its beautiful.

[timdp]

Here are the ship sizes if the metal Cobra is the same size as the Cobra in the illustration, compared to the sizes of two BFG ship models:

[timdp]

From Ahriman's Aide on The_First_Expedition:

Extermination has provided us with a true glut of information on the ships of the Great Crusade, including class types and some images.

All are from Extermination, mostly from p15 though a few are from elsewhere in the book.

Battleships

Goliath Class Battleship
Victory Class Battleship
Infernus Class Battleship
Retribution Class Battleship
Imperator (Emperor) Class Battleship
Tiamat Class Shield Bastion
Ironclad Class Battleship
Dictatus Class Battleship
Mortus Rex Class Battleship

Battle Barges

Warspite Class Battle Barge
Basileus Class Battle Barge
Legatus Class Battle Barge

Grand Cruisers/Galleasses

Avenger Class Grand Cruiser
Dagon Class Grand Cruiser
Inflexible Class Grand Cruiser
Maelstrom Class Grand Cruiser
Odysseus Class Galleass

Cruiser/Strike Cruiser

Armiger Class Cruiser
Crusader Class Cruiser
Eclipse Class Cruiser
Hades Class Cruiser
Hellfire Class Lance Cruiser
Silurian Class Cruiser
Tetsujin Class Cruiser
Crusade Class Cruiser
Olympia Class Strike Cruiser
Cardinal Class Cruiser
Lunar Class Cruiser
Bellerophon Class Heavy Assault Cruiser

Escorts

Sword Class Frigate
Quicksilver Class Frigate
Thunderbolt Class Heavy Frigate
Sceptre Class Escort
Havoc Class Escort
Baron Class Escort
Harpy Class Escort
Stalwart Class Minesweeper
Cobra Class Destroyer
Vigil Class Siege Frigate
Spectre Class Warp Runner
Thor Class Ordinancer

[dicnar]

Speaking ship sizes, does anyone know is this table valid? Because i was thinking of  making myself Universe class conveyor but when i started to take measurements it turned really big, I know it suppose to be but its just massive.
http://dirkloechel.deviantart.com/art/Size-Comparison-Science-Fiction-spaceships-398790051

Here's a pic with cobra for size comparison. I was kinda disappointing that Ra'ghul ships are so tiny. Also what are those two at the bottom, never heard of them.

[Malika]

I've got a feeling the two at the bottom are fan creations?

[timdp]

I've got a feeling the two at the bottom are fan creations?

Don't think Dirk would put fan made stuff on his chart. More likely something from the RT RPG.