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[lordgoober]

no.  this is just LIKE Warhammer Fantasy Orc Animosity.  It's not overly universal like it.
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[horizon]

Hey all,

Have a good warp jump into 2014!

[lordgoober]

May the Schwartz be with you all.

[Seahawk]

whoops, I'm a ninny.  I missed a very important part of that whole thing.

There ya go! It's really not so bad.


It really is a direct port of rules straight from 40k. I'd be fine with some modifications, but really it's pretty well functional.

The game isn't really fair, and not all races have access to the same things. Otherwise, everyone would have MSM rules, bombardment cannon, inertialess drives, guided torpedoes, and 6+ armor.

Likewise, not all races have the same friends as everyone else. That being said, I made some changes based on the suggestions here.



Tyranids have a few more "allies", to represent genestealer cults that have infiltrated Imperial ships, and the fact that Eldar will sometimes shadow the fleets to follow their own interests. I considered Orks as well, but they're too rambunctious and would just fight them.

I also modified a few others to represent stuff that happens in fluffy awesomeness.

At any rate, catch you on the flip side!

[afterimagedan]

Wait, all the Tyranids still have red for Imperials. Not that it matters all that much to me in the personally.

[Seahawk]

Whoops, I'll fix that! Meant it to be blue.

Done. I'm going with only IN, because IN crews are "corruptible", as it were, being mainly indentured crews and whatnot.

Space Marines know the Tyranid threat, and would never surrender a vessel or work alongside, unless it was like an Inquisition shadow corvette or something, which isn't represented by the rules yet anyway. So, no SM. Same would go for AM.

Still, just having any other artificial vessels would be quite beneficial to Tyranids. The ability to take a cruiser, or even escorts of any of the allowed fleets could change tactics quite a bit.

For that matter, I'm still not totally sure on the AM fleet. I'm thinking they may be more willing to ally to the Tau to acquire technology or something, but then that's not their thing. They're so insular and looking for human tech, so I don't know. Opinions! About any of it, for that matter.

[afterimagedan]

Done. I'm going with only IN, because IN crews are "corruptible", as it were, being mainly indentured crews and whatnot.

Space Marines know the Tyranid threat, and would never surrender a vessel or work alongside, unless it was like an Inquisition shadow corvette or something, which isn't represented by the rules yet anyway. So, no SM. Same would go for AM.

Agree totally.

[unseelied]

The rogue traders, they are in the 2010 FAQ, could be best buddies with everyone but nids.   Depending upon what kind of business they are in and what that is, they could be dealing with all types of strangeness.  Some would be loyal to the imperium and others would just be about who is giving them the money.  Show me the money!  This way everyone could get a best bud, not that the rogue trader fleet options are amazing or anything.  I guess Xenos escorts would be pretty good at 250pts.  Plus they aren't represented on the chart but are still a legal fleet list.  Inquisition also is not on the chart.  I don't think a lot of people play those two fleets but for the sake of completeness they probabally should be included.  I guess they could just be rolled into imperial or chaos also but it should be spelled out if thats what going to happen.

[lordgoober]

in the original list I had them as being able to battle brothers with everyone except for nids.

Count them as that.  Battle Brothers with everyone except for Necrons and Tyranids.  Tyranids unallowed,  Necrons not sure how we should handle them.  Sector allies for Rogue Traders.

Take a look at the Inquisition in Raptor's latest list and we'll convert it to the new version.

[unseelied]

With the new cron fluff with all their dynasties and such I can see an honorable dynasty getting involved with legitimate deals with a trader.  Maybe they are looking for some of their own lost aerotech or maybe its just information about their various enemies.  It could be raw materials to build or repair Necron stuff.  If the eldar would have dealings with rogue traders why not the Necrons?  I don't see any fluff reason not to include them. 

[lordgoober]

I haven't played 40k itself since very late 4e so I don't know much about the new fluff so if the new fluff supports Rogue Traders working with Necrons then I'm all for it.

[Islacrusez]

Perhaps Rogue Traders should have a slightly different set of allies - all yellow [allies of convenience] ('cept nids). Of course, this shouldn't necessarily be reciprocal. Also, I think nobody should be able to take nids as allies. Nids can bring allies, but nobody can bring nids (aimed at seahawk's list).

[lordgoober]

Islacrusez.  that's the EXACT intent.  NOBODY will be able to bring Nid Allies except for Nid Hive fleet bringing Nid Vanguard Fleet.

[Seahawk]

Ah, there it is.

Okay, I can see the merit of one-way allies.

[lordgoober]

which is what we were trying to do with the original chart.  Yours is much better in layout.  We're stealing it and tweaking it slightly. 

That being said,  once we manage to get this all hashed out.  I'd like to submit it to the general BFG playing public as a possible universal tournament rules set.