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[Seahawk]

So straight Cruisers, no light/heavy/battle/grand. Gotcha; may want to clarify on the site, as light cruisers could be a popular choice for the points.


Also, I was just referencing the rift and allies, just so we're on the same page.
 

[lordgoober]

No.  something that has "Cruiser/HP" in its stat line.  Light, and Standard.  You can't get Heavys or grands based on the rules.  Lights are just fine.

I know.  We'll have answers for you if that is applicable.

[Seahawk]

I also see that Armada refits are available. So that means I could take special torpedoes, torpedo bombers, and orbital mines?

[lordgoober]

correct.

[lordgoober]

Ok.  I am going to make a unilateral decision on the Veteran Fighter skill right now as I haven't heard back from Raptor yet (he's got a new job so I'm not surprised) even though we're past the deadline. 

Change Veteran Attack Craft Fighter Section to this.  Bombers are unchanged.

Your Fighter squadrons are now resilient. If they were already resilient,  their first resilient roll is passed on a 2+ and may make a second resilient roll as normal in the same phase instead of being immediately removed.

Because of this,  there is no conflict between this upgrade and the rules for resilient vs resilient in the 2010 FAQ.

[Seahawk]

What's depressing about the 8HP limit is that Chaos fleets cannot have any cruisers to benefit from Battle Brothers or Sector Allies. With only Orks as their BB (fitting, mind), and all Ork Kroozers being 10HP...sadz.

In fact, Chaos gets almost nothing out of the rules. The lance upgrade only affects Idolators, and everything else only benefits from the ignoring blast markers. Poo.

Okay, so regular fighters become Resilient, and Resilient Fighters are changed to a 2+/4+.

I hope these are in use next year too when I use Imperials, because Thunderhawks/Eldar Fighters are going to be damn hard to shift with AC.

[lordgoober]

did i really screw that badly up with the ork kroozers?

* lordgoober goes to check the pdfs...

[lordgoober]

Ork Cruisers are legal.

[Seahawk]

So Chaos can take a 10HP Ork Kroozer as an ally?

[lordgoober]

yes.  I am going to allow that.  though if you look at the ork clanz pdf there IS that ork lite kroozer.

[Seahawk]

Hmm, true. Still, thanks for opening it up to standard kroozers. They're all not that good, but it at least gives options.

[lordgoober]

thanks for pointing it out.  I don't think Raptor or I actually looked at the ship stats before making the rules up.  Our bad.  Both changes have been updated in the official rules on the website now.

[RaptorEvolved]

Yea sry been very very busy painting and testing stuff, I did look over the Ork stuff and what I had initially thought was that alot of the races had just enough poits for a reg cruiser or light cruiser and some escorts, this by no means meant that you couldnt take a light cruiser, standad cruiser, grandcruiser, as lonf as the stat line didnt pass the 8 hp limit.  sry about earlier new job meansd lots of hrs awayh from the pc but rest assured we will all have alot of funn this year. also I agree with Lord about the change to Fighter Aces I thought we covered alot of the bases with how we wanted the fighter aces thing to work but works better this way

[Seahawk]

Just so you know, the new updates are on the rules doc, but the allies chart fell off.

[Seahawk]

Anyone else excited?

...anyone else still have an unpainted fleet to paint??