[WM] Helge's Warmaster Log

[Helge]

I tend not to worry so much about cost so I don't know if my unit layout is the most economical. I used:

4 Archer Packs: Glade Guard and Waywatchers

2 Infantry Packs: Eternal Guard and Wardancers (spear and sword armed models in the pack respectively)

2 Character Packs: Orion, Spell Weavers, Dryads (two packs gave me two units of Dryads and plenty of character models).

[Stormwind]

Sounds good! I would be tempted to use the Warspite Elves from Eureka as eternal guard and the Infantry pack for the wardancers so there's a big distinction.

If I used the hounds to pad out the bases of the dryads then they might look less sparse.

http://thebrushsquig.blogspot.co.uk/

This guy uses Deamonettes for dryads but damned if we can get hold of them for a decent price right now.
I also might copy his idea of using Dark Riders as the Glade Riders / Wild Riders.

You are really making me plan another army now.

[Bel]

This guy uses Deamonettes for dryads

Alike these ones?

[Stormwind]

Yes, Bel, just like that!

Just my luck that the only demon left on the GW website is the nurgle one and not Slaanesh. =-P00

I think I would use the Eureka tree men to buff up the Wood Hag/Dryad bases and perhaps use a GW plastic dryad as a Tree Man as it is larger.  Ack the cogs are turning in my head for this.

[Helge]

I think the Eureka Treeman would be too large for a Dryad base. Keep in mind that the images of Orion, Treemen and Warhawk riders above are all on 40mm round bases, not 25mm (the Stag and foot heroes are on 25mm bases).

The scale issue is also significant. Attached is a quick photo of four different models from different "Wood Elf Ranges". From the left: Eureka Wood Elf, Eureka War Sprite, Copplestone City Archer, Pendraken Wood Elf

As you can see, the Pendraken elf is almost twice the height of the Eureka one. For some reason the Eureka war sprite is also much larger than the wood elf from Eureka. I don't think any of these would mix well, expect maybe the war sprite with the copplestone models (though that's the least useful combination). Regular GW models are about the same size as the Eureka models (in between the Wood Elf and War sprite).

Measuring from toe (not base) to top of the head/helmet, I get:
Eureka WE:10mm
Eureka WS: 12mm
Copplestone: 14mm
Pendraken: 15mm +2mm thick base (though this model has a bit of a stretching pose)

Hope this helps.

[Stormwind]

Oh wow, thanks for the comparison shot and explanation, Helge!

I just assumed that the Eagle and the Treemen were on 25mm bases, now I see they are larger than I thought.

I saw these 15mm dryads / tree folk but I think they, too, would be too large to mix with the wood hags from Eureka:
http://www.splinteredlightminis.com/dryads.html
http://www.splinteredlightminis.com/woodtrolls.html

It's a shame that so few "10mm" fantasy ranges actually fit that description!  I think that I would just have to swallow that difference in scale.  I like the idea of using the Copplestone rangers as Glade Guard too much to leave them out of it.

[Helge]

The Copplestone Rangers are actually 2mm smaller than the Copplestone City Archers so the gap won't be huge. That said, all the Copplestone models are a lot heavier/thicker than the Eureka models. So even if the height blends in, it is clearly visible than they are different types.

[Stormwind]

Ah, very good.

http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/alien-dungeon/fanticide/the-fae/fanticide-fae-sprytes/prod_19560.html?added=1

Just realised this - apparently these are the same models as the dryads from Eureka, but you can get 30 of them in one go.  I think I'd get some of these as there's only so many wolfhounds and Orions I could use.

[empireaddict]

I found the Copplestone Rangers to be a straightforward painting task
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5102.msg40097#msg40097
and I always wondered if they would make good Glade Guard.

I also wondered if the ones with their bows 'at ease' could be turned into spears and then a shield added to make them Eternal Guard?  Also toyed with the idea of greenstuffing cloaks on to Copplestone Horse Archers to make Glade Riders?

But I have so many other projects that I never even got to the prototype stage.  So, over to you ...

[Stormwind]

@Empire Addict:

Ah yes, and a good painting job, too!

http://thebrushsquig.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/wood-elf-challenge-week-3-and-prototypes.html

This chap tried converting them into spearmen but it looks... Time consuming.  I considered the Cop. Horse Archers too, but they have facial hair which marks them out as a bit un-elfy - so planning on using Dark Riders, myself.

[empireaddict]

Good point on facial hair.  Nothing that a bit of filing couldn't fix?  But given that Dark Riders are still available, I suppose that's a much easier win.

For a Treeman, how about Reaper Miniatures' 03243 Swamp Shambler?  Don't have one myself, but saw it a while back while browsing.

[Stormwind]

The Dark Riders are closer in scale to the Eureka stag cavalry - so they would be my first preference. =)

I think that this:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-133546587642587_2264_0
Splintered Light Minis 18mm Treeman absolutely has me sold as my treeman.

[Helge]

On the topic of dryads (and warhawks)...

[Stormwind]

Ahh, amazing work, Helge! Out of curiousity, why did you use plain Warhawks instead of the Warhawks with elven riders?  And what diameter of brass rod did you use to mount them?

[Helge]

I simply ran out of riders. The riders are the same models as those on the stags, and a lot of them were broken when I got them from Eureka (one particular type has a very tiny wrist so the bow hand keeps breaking off). So I didn't have any spare riders for the hawks (unridden Stags look silly, unridden warhawks are ok).

The rod is 1mm.