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Offline timdp

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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2014, 08:22:41 PM »
Hi guys,

I don't know if this can help, but I did a quick 3d mockup of the model based on the illustration, to see how it would turn out! And it's terrifying....

As it should be!

Thanks for mocking this up Armand! Gives a pretty good idea of the massive size of the VS. What is the BFG model scale length of your mockup? Looks like you have not added engines yet though.

When you next work on it,you might want to stack the weapons batteries four high like the illustration, instead of three. There seem to be two banks stacked above the weapons batteries (at least in the front bay) that might be launch bays or possibly lance decks with the light blobs being lance turrets. I'm currently thinking lance decks... The center vertical strip weapons look like bombardment cannons to me. Black areas at the bottom of the bays are probably launch bays for fighters and flight decks for larger landing ships as well.

Will be doing a small order on your Shapeways store soon. :-)

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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2014, 09:01:03 PM »
By my reckoning it's 4 decks of weapon batteries, above that is two decks of lance or large launch bays, and two decks of launch bays among the weapon batteries on the lower two decks. It also appears to have prow torpedoes.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2014, 09:32:01 PM by Islacrusez »
Quite crucial to be able to tell minefields and rally points apart...

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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #47 on: July 24, 2014, 10:53:37 PM »
New illustration that could be the Vengeful Spirit, given the five wide banks of gun batteries.
I have no idea where the illustration comes from.


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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2014, 04:34:45 AM »
That picture is from HH book 2, IIRC
As we Imperials say, "The Emperor [class battleship] Protects..."

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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2014, 07:53:49 AM »
That images stems from deviant art:

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Fire-Everything-117678230

Someone made it for his brother's birthday.



Here is a Necron re-design from him...

« Last Edit: July 25, 2014, 07:57:53 AM by horizon »

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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2014, 06:22:07 PM »
Thanks Horizon!

This is quite a piece of work (called Fire Everything) and the Necron redesign is great as well.
I would think that he used the HHCV illustration of the Vengeful Spirit as a starting point...

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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2014, 10:25:15 PM »
in this is a picture of a Gloriana ship (mid left hand side, bottom of teh 40k stuff)
http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Sci-Fi-Ships-Updated-PIC.jpg
theres no such thing as over kill, its just making sure

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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2014, 10:54:26 PM »
in this is a picture of a Gloriana ship (mid left hand side, bottom of teh 40k stuff)
http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Sci-Fi-Ships-Updated-PIC.jpg

Pretty sure that we do not have any confirmation that the Iron Blood is a Gloriana class ship.
More discussion of the Iron Blood and the other two ships pictured in Extermination here:
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=6209.15

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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2016, 04:48:45 PM »
The problem with the HH boardgame version is that it appears to simply be a variant of the Repulsive class, whcih is already smaller than both the Desolater and Despoiler - hardly fitting for Horus's flagship/a Glorina class ship that can carry Legion style forces.

I had dismissed the HH boardgame version as well because of the big Repulsive bottom fin, but after looking at this image I'm no longer sure of the dismissal. The bottom center of weapons bay area has the same diagonal lines as the HHCV VS image. The wepons bay are appears to be 5 weapon bays tall as well. Prow looks a bit different from a Repulsive too. Can anyone who has the game post a good image of the ship?



Also regarding Space Marine battle barges during the Great Crusade: Found another bit of text in Extermination just above the ship list. I guess the bit in bold clarifies that  M41 style battle barges did exist during the Heresy.

"Battleships or Battle Barges
Battleships are the principal/capital class of warship in the Armada Imperialis
Range 8-12 km in length, though some were constructed far larger.
Battle Barges are any variant or retrofit of Battleship class hulls modified and optimized for use by the Legiones Astartes specifically for Space Marine planetary assault and ship-to-ship boarding actions.
Purpose-built Battle Barges have also been constructed, particularly in the Great Crusade’s later years.
In common parlance, any capital class vessel used by the Legiones Astartes exclusively is often referred to as a Battle Barge regardless of the technical truth of the matter."

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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2016, 10:13:59 PM »

I had dismissed the HH boardgame version as well because of the big Repulsive bottom fin, but after looking at this image I'm no longer sure of the dismissal. The bottom center of weapons bay area has the same diagonal lines as the HHCV VS image. The weapons bay are appears to be 5 weapon bays tall as well. Prow looks a bit different from a Repulsive too.

Oh well, never mind. The turrets are huge making the ship very small...


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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #55 on: February 11, 2016, 01:35:39 PM »
Call me stupid but what boardgame is that from?  :o
As we Imperials say, "The Emperor [class battleship] Protects..."

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Re: Vengeful Spirit and Venerable BB models - advice sought!
« Reply #56 on: February 11, 2016, 10:54:30 PM »
FFG Horus Heresy