Additional Ship Compendium 2.0 (for use with BFG:R)

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

So with BFG:R approaching finalization, the additional ship's compendium should be updated and expanded to be compatable with BFG:R and to reflect the additions to the different fleets.

EDIT: NOTE THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS THREAD IS FOR GENERATING A LIST OF SHIPS TO DICUSS AND DEVELOP OVER TIME.

IF THIS LIST RECEIVED GENERAL APPROVAL, WE CAN GO ONTO ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE SHIPS- STARTING WITH IN.

Below is the list of vessels I pulled from the Book of Nemesis, RT:Battlefleet Koronus and the original Additional Ship's Compendium that I believe should be included in the 2.0. I have scoured Warp Rift and IA Vol 10 as well

Additions made after op are in blue. Removals are in red. Ships in green are in progress or completed on their respective thread.

Imperial Dreadnought (IN)- Needs a class name. Maybe Abyss Class and make it the same as the Furious Abyss
Invincible Class Fast BB (IN)
Nemesis Class BB (IN)
Reprisal Class BB (IN)
Terra Class BB (IN) (my original creation on the original forums, before the Book of Nemesis)
Majestic Class BB (IN)
High Conveyor- BB/Transport (IN/Admech) (IA vol 10)
Annhilator Class GC (IN/CH) (my recent creation)
Goliath Class GC (IN/CH) (my recent creation)
Furious Class GC (IN/CH)
Shadow of Vengeance- Unique GC (IN/INQ)
Governor Class GC(IN)
Chalice Class CB (IN)
Long Serpent Class CB (IN)
Daemon Slayer Class CA (IN)
Deimos Class Torpedo CA
Claymore Class Corvette (IN)
Turbulent Class Heavy Frigate (IN)
Firedagger Class Frigate (IN)
Preator Class Frigate (IN)
Viper Class Scout Sloop (Rename- Python?) (IN/RT)
Punisher Strike Cruiser (IN, RT, AdMech System Defense)
Patrol Torpedo Boat Squadron (System Defense) (by Grim Dark Bits)
The Raptorus Rex- Unique BB (SM) (IA vol 10)
The Phalanx- Unique BB (SM)
Pride of Fenris- Unique BB (SM Space Wolves)
Retribution- Unique BB (SM Space Wolves)
Ragnarok Assault BB (SM)- In WR it was just Assault BB, I added Ragnarok based off the famous vessels
Charybdis Class GCHeresy Era BB (SM/CH) (by Grim Dark Bits) Maybe make this the Charybdis or Vindictive Class Grand Cruiser?
Ironwolf- Unique GC (SM Space Wolves)- According to Warp Rift 14, this is a Vidictive Class GC
Vindictive Class GC (SM/CH)
The Nicor- Unique GC (SM) -  (IA vol 10) According to IA 10 it is a Charibdys Class Grand Cruiser
Vanguard Cruiser (SM)(IA vol 10)
The Night Hag- Unique CA (SM, RT, CH)(IA vol 10)
Fist of Russ- Unique CA (SM Space Wolves)
Heresy Era SC (SM/CH) (by Grim Dark Bits) (Meh, the model matches the actual SC too closely in terms of armament to justify other rules).
Dire Wolf Assault SC- In WR14 it is just an Assault SC, I added Dire Wolf based off the famous ships. Normal SC in BFG:R can perform the same role
Hawking Class Exploration CA (RT/Ad Mech)
Ambition Class CA (RT)
Comet Blockade Runner (RT/CH)
Conquest Class Star Galleon (RT)
Meritech Shrike Class Raider (RT/CH)
Furious Abyss- Unique Super BB/Dreadnought (CH)- maybe make this the Chaos equivalent of the Imperial Dreadnought
Deliverance Class Super BB (CH)
Blasphemer Class Fast BB (CH)
Kharnath Class GC (CH)
Hellfire Class CA (CH)
Hellbringer Class Planetary Assault Ship (CH)
Emasculator Class CA (CH)
Pagan Class System Control Cruiser CL (CH)
Pestilaan Class CL (CH)
Chaos SM SC (CH)
Apostate Class Heavy Raider (CH)
Pheonixship BB (Eldar)
Wyrmship BB (Eldar) (already in MMS)
Bahzhakhain- Unique Biel Tan Dragonship (Eldar)
Wild Serpent- Unique Saim-Hann Dragonship (Eldar)
Shadow Point- Unique Ulthwe Dragonship (Eldar)
Sword of Eldanesh- Unique Altioc Escort (Eldar)
Nebula BC (Eldar)
Ikaros CL (Eldar)
Sumac Class Escort (eldar)
Gouga Class CL (Ork)
Bludgeon Class Escort (Ork)
Mortalitas Class GC (DE)
Succubus CL (DE)
Slaver Class Escort (DE)
Or'es El'leath GC (Tau)
Kor'O Ry'zon Personal Lar'shi'vre Vessel- Unique CA (Tau)
Lar'shi'vre CA (Tau)
Nao'sak'oraes Missile Cruiser (Tau)
Il'Porrui CL (Tau)
Il'Porrui CL- Mantis Variant (Tau)
Il'Porrui CL- Marauder Variant (Tau)
Kir'shasvre Escort (Tau)
Kir'la Escort (Tau)
Vespid Hive Ship (CL?Escort?) (Tau)
Cartouche Class CL (Necron)
Rak'Gol Mangler
Rak'Gol Mauler
Rak'Gol Butcher
Fra'al Battlecruiser


FLEET LISTS
Maelstrom Zone Loyalists (SM) (IA vol 10)
Maelstrom Zone Successionists (SM) (IA vol 10)
Battlefleet Corribra (IN) (Official BFG:R Fleet List)
Space Wolves (SM)
Tau Gue'la (Tau)
Battlefleet Limante (IN)
Battlefleet Pacificus- The Grand Fleets of Hydraphur (IN)
Battlefleet Kar Duniash (IN)
Gilded Fleets of Voss (IN)
Project Distant Darkness (Tau)
Rak'Gol
Chaos Pact Mix of CH, DE and Ork. This is questionable. I'd like to add it to give more Xenos type options, as well, those fleets don't get to benefit from reserves like Imperial Fleets do...

I say we break this down part by part, first looking at IN starting with BB and working to escorts before moving onto Chaos, so on and so forth.

[BaronIveagh]

Might include the IA X ships too, since most people don't know them.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Might include the IA X ships too, since most people don't know them.

Agreed. I had forgotten about them. I wonder is the IA 3 second ed will have the Tau fleet in it still.
Maybe the BFG:R SM document should be updated instead though (at least with the fleet lists?). Thoughts people?

Here are the ships anyways:

Vanguard Cruiser (SM)
High Conveyor (IN/Admech)
The Night Hag- Unique CA (SM, RT, CH)
The Nicor- Unique GC (SM)
The Raptorus Rex- Unique BB (SM)

[BaronIveagh]

Weirdly, the reprint of IA 3 will have the Tau fleet in it.  This may be due to the book being in production already before the decision about BFG was made, or simply an oversight.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Probably. Which really only goes to confirm that the pulling of SG was a kinda on the fly decision and not something that was planned or thought out, otherwise they would've know about it for a while.

[BaronIveagh]

Long Serpent is already in BFG 2010 as Mercury.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Added the Grim Dark Bits Heresy BB and Heresy SC. Figured we can make specific rules for these great models.

http://www.shapeways.com/shops/grimdarkbits

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

I feel like there isn't enough Xenos on the list

[AndrewChristlieb]

Well IN has historically gotten most of the love, then Chaos, then everything else.

[afterimagedan]

Agreed on the Xenos part. I also don't think the Shapeways SC needs rules, considering it is a strike cruiser already, which has tons of options.

Personally, I think adding some optional lists into the compendium would be sweet. Battlefleet Corribra comes to mind.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Agreed on the Xenos part. I also don't think the Shapeways SC needs rules, considering it is a strike cruiser already, which has tons of options.

Personally, I think adding some optional lists into the compendium would be sweet. Battlefleet Corribra comes to mind.

Any ideas for working in more xenos? Perhaps alternative rules for using Firestorm Armada proxies?

And I still need to look through all the Warp Rift magazines and see if there is anything that should be added.

I thought giving the Shapeways ships alternative rules may be good, since they clearly don't look like 6+ all around SM strike cruisers. A chance to really develope the heresy. There could be some classes listed in the books that aren't in the game we could assign to them. Just a thought.

Agreed on the Fleets. Battlefleet Corribra for sure.

I am also thinking a Gue'la fleet for Tau, and I still like the idea of an Arbites/System defense fleet.

[Bessemer]

The cartouch is already in BFGR necron list. Wasn't the Emasculator offiacialised as the Inferno? Had a similar load out iirc.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

I am also thinking some sort of Chaos Pact combining Chaos/Orks/DE with some sort of "strange happenings" type of disadvantage.

[Sigoroth]

I am also thinking some sort of Chaos Pact combining Chaos/Orks/DE with some sort of "strange happenings" type of disadvantage.

DE don't ally with Chaos. If some fiction says they do, it shouldn't.

[horizon]

Hey,
I agree with Sigoroth. Dark Eldar will only ally with Corsair/Craftworld Eldar. And even that one is fragile.
However, Eldar races might steer a battle between other forces if that is what their future tells the to do.