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Offline FistusMaximus

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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2013, 11:06:35 PM »
well, i think this is another nice variant of the vengeance CG chassis (i like some vaiation to the existing ships  :D ), and i think the updated version is okay.

taking lances instead of WB's might make some sense against necrons, orks (when closing), and marines... 

but really, as this is a support vessel not intended for closing in on the enemy, but rather staying back and keeping abeam, i would probably prefer the exorcist in most cases, as its WB's have a good chance of getting a lot more dice than the goliath's lances since the enemy has to close in to the ship while it itself presents its broadside to the enemy....

thinking of it, with the appropriate ships to support (tyrant w/ range upgrade, anyone?) the goliath would have a good use though in a lot of fleets IMO.
standing alone (fleet-wise), the exorcist would be better because it can take cae of itself to some extent.
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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2013, 02:13:28 AM »
Bump it to 60cm and you have a solid support ship to circle an engagement.
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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2013, 03:25:52 AM »
Problem is that no other vengeance type hull has 60 cm range lances (or anything that I can think of. )
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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2013, 04:15:53 AM »
Well the Vengeance has 60cm Weapons batteries. The 45's should be fine tho.
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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2013, 06:07:46 AM »
Well by virtue of the class' age the Lances should be 60cm. The Imperium had the tech then and 60cm makes since on a ship that shouldn't be alone or closing the range on hostile ships.

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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2013, 09:44:39 AM »
i agree on the 60cm lances, they would make sense....  in comparison to the vengeance: vengeance has the power to support the 45cm lances AND 60cm WB's, so i think when removing the WB's, there should be sufficient energy to power up the lances to 60cm, shouldn't it?  :D

and 60cm lances would definitely give the goliath a clear long range fleet support role the exorcist cannot fulfill.
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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2013, 12:24:23 PM »
If you look though, the Exorcist only has 45cm WB, and the Retaliator only has 45cm lances as well.

However, the Retaliator has S6 WB @ 30cm in addition to s2 45cm lances. 60cm probably is a good idea with that in mind...
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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2013, 09:10:13 PM »
Considering the other BFG:R GC I thought at 45cm it should be cheaper OR I could keep it 250 and bump up the range to 60cm lances. Given the fact it is suppossed to fill mroe of a support role, I went with the 60cm.
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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2013, 12:58:39 PM »
Speaking of Chaos, I made short test animation lately, thought you might be interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DiIYCS7Mvc

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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2013, 08:00:22 PM »
That was actually some pretty cool 3d modelling.

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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2013, 09:10:13 PM »
That was fantastic! How long did it take to do?
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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2013, 06:00:36 PM »
Well quite long unfortunately but it's because I'm consumed by work also had some pc issues to solve. Generally about 2 months in my free time. Now I'm going to make some bigger animation, with my other done models - Tau explorer, barracuda, manta, orca and Chaos hellblade. I can past some screens of models if u like.

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Re: Imperial/Chaos Grand Cruiser Support Vessel Design
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2013, 03:15:45 AM »
Very cool :).
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