BFG:R Inquisition

[AndrewChristlieb]

What limit don't you like? The 1/500 in an IN list or the up to 10 in a SM list?

Any Imperial or Space Marine fleet  750 points or
greater may include or be led by an Inquisitor Lord, who must be
placed on an Inquisition Blackship if one is present, or
on the most expensive ship in the fleet if one is not.
They must be aboard  an Inquisitorial Cruiser  if it  is
included  in the fleet, even if  it is not the most
expensive ship or a Blackship is also present.

[afterimagedan]

I mean the inquisitorial cruiser. Oops!

[AndrewChristlieb]

Oh. Well .

[afterimagedan]

I understand limiting it, but restricted to 1 ever is overkill. I think here should just be heavier restrictions like it counts as a grand cruiser so needs 3 cruisers to take 1.

[Armiger84]

3:1 works for me; that basically makes it a fleet reserve anyhow, so it would be hard to argue against that being balanced.

[afterimagedan]

0-1 Black ship, Inq Cruiser allowed per 3 cruisers, GKSC just like Andrew said.

[AndrewChristlieb]

Ok, but why allow more then one Inq cruiser? These are supposed to be exceptionally rare, so rare that the Inquisitors usually don't use them.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

Ok, but why allow more then one Inq cruiser? These are supposed to be exceptionally rare, so rare that the Inquisitors usually don't use them.

I agree. You are probably more likely to see multiple Blackships than Inquisitorial cruisers

[afterimagedan]

Show us some sources.

[Gothmog Lord of Balrogs]

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/League_of_Blackships#.UZhc4T7juSo
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Inquisitorial_Black_Ship#.UZhdHD7juSo
So the psyker collection vessels travel in fleets.
The INQ ships are more like strike cruisers. Strike cruisers more than often deploy in solo roles.
As well, the INQ cruisers don't have to constantly visit every planet in the Imperium.

BUT I think for game balance, it should be the way it is now TBH. Sometimes fluff has to be tempered. And really the two (Psyker BS vs Inq BS) are completely separate anyways.

[AndrewChristlieb]

That's a lot of BS but somebody had to say it .

[afterimagedan]

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/League_of_Blackships#.UZhc4T7juSo
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Inquisitorial_Black_Ship#.UZhdHD7juSo
So the psyker collection vessels travel in fleets.
The INQ ships are more like strike cruisers. Strike cruisers more than often deploy in solo roles.
As well, the INQ cruisers don't have to constantly visit every planet in the Imperium.

BUT I think for game balance, it should be the way it is now TBH. Sometimes fluff has to be tempered. And really the two (Psyker BS vs Inq BS) are completely separate anyways.

If we go by your arguments then we should limit strike cruisers. Inquisitorial cruisers have lots of traveling to do and traveling amount doesn't have anything to do with them appearing together or being rare.

Your "way it is now," do you mean you want to keep it at 0-1 or 1/3 cruisers?

Honestly, they are hard to use individually. Paired they are great. You can't really pair it well with a strike cruiser because of the 45deg turn. Pairing it with say a tyrant might work but your bombardment cannons don't stack with stuff. Paired makes them appealing and not otherwise especially compared to just getting strike cruisers. Honestly, I know some people dont want this to be a tournament fleet, but we are trying for game balance here so that all fleets have equal potential power. There is no reason to take Inquisition over space marines without some good incentives. Allowing for more than one inq cruiser is one that compels me.

[AndrewChristlieb]

How do you mean

bombardment cannons don't stack with stuff

?

[afterimagedan]

On the gunnery chart, bombardment cannons do not add with weapon batteries but will combine with bombardment cannons only.

[horizon]

Different coloured dice, lol.

Yes, I agree with the text Andrew gave. Some notes: Inquisitor (as Dan also said) may be taken in addition to or instead of the regular fleet admiral. Plus I would say: Inquisitor may be placed on any ship he prefers (they are cunning individuals, seeing at times it is better to be on a small vessel then the juicy ponderous big ship).

As for ship restrictions, I'll think about it.