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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2013, 06:55:18 AM »
Thanks! I will get to working on this probably tomorrow.

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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2013, 05:35:43 AM »
To be fair, Plaxor wrote this, not me.
Proofreading complete.
Interesting that spores were changed to shields/turrets. When I get to the ship list, I make some comments on names. Take them or leave them. Just feedback.

Pg 1

Pg 2
1st paragraph, you forgot hive fleet jormungandr.
There are a whole bunch of hive fleets missed. The three listed are the primary three.

Pg 3
1st column, last line
"Swarms, flood across The Tyranids' defenceless"- The should not be capatalized.
2nd Column, THE HIVE MIND. "hive fleet" should be capatalized to follow your formatting convention used throughout.
3rd Column, THE HIVE FLEETS. "as the warship-sized bio construct"- construct should be plural.
Retrenched should be entrenched.
Actually, retrenched it correct.

What two categories?
Not sure.

Pg 4
1st Column three main classes are mentioned, but then only 2 main classes are discussed: Hive ships and drone ships. Probably need to make it clearer that you are talking about Proteus as a 3rd type (I think you are).
I think the text stands for itself. They are talking about the big huge hives that dwarf battleships so that would basically implicate a Proteus without having to name it.

Fluff piece- 3rd line, career should be careen. Last line, limbs and spare should be swaped to say spare limbs.

Pg 5
Why is hive ship not capitalized?
Why is Command in Command check done with a capital C but check a lowercase c?

Pg 6
Second Column, second line. "androll" missing a space. 4th line "theyir" should be "their". 6th line sentence stating with All requires a space between the period and word All.
3rd Column, second to last line "are additional the the" should be "to the".

Pg 7

Pg 8

Pg 9

Pg 10
Proteus Hive Ship, 4th line- Th refore, missed an e.

Pg 11
Charybdis Hive Ship- The big T at the description start is too low. The Prow weapon table extrection duct line seems off. Keep Weapon Launch Glands verticle table lines messed  up. Same with Port/Stbd weapons. For the port/stbd weapon Strengths, I would do 2/2 or 1/1 instead of 2+2 or 1+1. The note at the bottom should say "as such" not "hence" In the fluff piece, I would move the big A to the left a little.
I would call the picture "Leviathan Hive Fleet Hive Ship"
Some of the tables look a little weird when zoomed out because it isn't rendered fully. It's because I often have to add a little white strip to write over old stuff when it's not editable. It will work out when I "print" the final PDFs.

Pg 12
Scylla Hive Ships- Port/Stbd weapons launch glands verticle dividing lines messed up.For the port/stbd weapon Strengths, I would do 2/2 or 1/1 instead of 2+2 or 1+1.

Pg 13
Kraken Carnivore- I might call it Kraken Razorfiend to go with the model's name., or something not Kraken, as to not confuse it with the common kraken.. In the description, 5th line, ants should be lowercase. 4th line from the bottom, last word "creature" should be plural.
It's called a Kraken to indicate that is is a Kraken breed. Kraken breeds have the 4+ save and the 6+ armor thing going on and keeping Kraken in the name helps make that clear. Carnivore is something that has been around for a while. I am not against calling it Kraken Razorfiend but I would like to hear some more support for it before it's changed.

Pg 14
Leviathan Prowler- seems like a confusing name, seeing as hive ships are commonly referred to as leviathan hive ships, and even are in this pdf. Maybe just a Prowler Drone, or Prowler Kraken. In the description, vanguard should be lowercase as to not confuse it with the Vanguard ship OR use a different word. Though it seems to be a type on Vanguard. Maybe call it a Vanguard Prowler, and the other one a Vanguard Drone since it is an escort.

The fluff piece was already used on pg 8.
Changed it to different fluff. Tau for once.

Pg 15
Emergent Drone- Keel weapon launch glands verticle dividing lines messed up.

Pg 16
Predator Kraken- I would call it the Kraken Predator, to follow the naming convention of the Kraken Carnivore.
In the description, 'Ramsmiter Kraken' in quotes, but Deathburner is not, either both should or should not be.

People seemed to want to keep it as Predator Kraken so as to feel encouraged to continue to call it a Kraken for short, not Predator. For the Carnivore, the idea was to put it as Kraken Carnivore so that Carnivore would become the short name.

Pg 17
Leviathan Vanguard, may just call it Vanguard Drone, especially if you go with Vanguard Prowler for the Leviathan Prowler.
In the description, Hormagaunts are not an infiltration creature. Leapers more commonly known as Deathleapers.
True, Hormagaunts are only with Synapse creatures. Fixed.


Pg 18
TYRANID HIVE FLEETS
In the 1st paragraph, Sectors should be lowercase.

Put a space between the word Hive and Ships for the "HIVESHIPS" section. Under hiveships, for the Proteus fleet restrictions, 0-6E mergent Drones. Need a space between the 6 and E and remove the space between the E and m.

Captial Ships- remove the space before Capital and put a space between Capital and Ships.
On occasion, my program messes up the spacing. Thanks for spotting these.

Minor Synapse Nodes- Still refers to juvenile hive ships. Should be Scylla hive ships. Where it does say Scylla Hive Ships, there needs to be a space between Scylla and Hive.

ESCORTS- There is a random letter F after "Hive Ships"
Hehe, yep. That looked pretty ridiculous.

VANGUARD FLEETS- Need a space between VANGUARD and FLEETS.

GESTATING FLEETS- Need a space between GESTATING and FLEETS. 3rd line from the bottom, of should be or and "Gertating" should be Gestating. Last line, range is missing an e on the end. There seems to be no incentive to play a Gestating Fleet.

The Hive Fleet list fails to allow you to just by ordnance like the original tyranids list did, without a carrier. Is that intentional? Seems like it shouldn't be since you mention anti-bodies in the scenarios.
The idea was that you don't really need to buy them separately anymore because of the increased carrier options. If you think they should be there, we could have that discussion.

Pg 19
Cruiser Clash rules, should say they may use one BB and 3 CA or one Charybdis Hiveship and 3 scylla or kraken
I simplified by saying you could instead use 1 Charybdis and 3 cruisers or light cruisers instead.

Thanks for the hard work! Please check it over if you have time.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2013, 07:03:03 AM by afterimagedan »

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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2013, 06:52:34 AM »
If the large one is going to be Kraken Carnivore, then the small one should be Kraken Predator, not Predator Kraken OR vice versa (Large one Carnivore Kraken). Just to keep the same established naming convention. If they are both kraken breed, it doesn't make sense for one to have kraken 1st in the name and the other second in the name.
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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2013, 07:03:30 AM »
Anyone else feel that way about the names?

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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #64 on: May 24, 2013, 08:32:53 AM »
If it makes them easier to distinguish, then Kraken (small) and Razorfiend (Big) do fit.

Vanguard Prowler and Vanguard drone also fit well. don't have a problem with any as is tho.

Just realised the vote is up, should I move this there instead?
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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #65 on: May 24, 2013, 04:37:29 PM »
OK, so:

Predator Kraken
Razorfiend Kraken
Vanguard Prowler
Vanguard Drone

???

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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #66 on: May 24, 2013, 04:52:46 PM »
Looks good.

Unless other people don't want razorfiend. The only reason I suggested it was model continuity. But at least the naming convention is consistent for the various kraken. If it ends up being carnivore so be it. Though Razorfiend definately has a certain nid quality to it too.
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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #67 on: May 24, 2013, 05:12:39 PM »
Razorfiend is cool with me. It fits the model too.

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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2013, 05:27:17 PM »
Razorfiend is cool with me. It fits the model too.

Since it is not longer just a cruiser had has to come with the massive claws, it really fits.
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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2013, 06:25:00 AM »
Hey,
All good if we call this final or do we need a voting round?
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« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2013, 11:50:44 PM »
I thought this had been finalized! :o This is what you get for being off the boards for ages :-[ But when you live in the UK and you actually get a summer, you damn well take it!

Pending any objections I say put it up for a final vote.
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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #71 on: September 11, 2013, 12:04:30 AM »
This seemed to have no objections enough for it to fall by the wayside. I say just call this and Inquisition final.

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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #72 on: September 11, 2013, 12:47:31 AM »
I also thought this was finalized already but I was away for some time too ;)

I'd say, let's call it done.

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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #73 on: September 11, 2013, 04:29:20 AM »
Done!  :)

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Re: BFG:R Tyranid Hive Fleets
« Reply #74 on: June 18, 2014, 11:52:27 AM »
Hi all, great work on the whole BFG-R concept. Was just play testing my nids and a minor issue came up regarding Escort Drones. What exactly is their load out of "Mycetic spores", are they supposed to be treated as "phage mines" or something else? 20pts/escort and having 2 mines does not feel right. It also had a tendency to flood the table with mines taking into account the minimum amount of Escort drones per hive ship required.