Eh, I just wanted to know what those 7 want to change on the Enforcer.
In my case it needs rebalanced point wise, and the current restriction of 3 per fleet should probably be looked at being balanced in another way (to avoid AC spam at lower point values).
But we're not arguing for a ship being removed, you're arguing for a ship to be included. Big difference. The onus is on you to prove that it is a necessary, viable and fluffy ship that does not alter interfleet balance. The latter 2 may be fine, but the first 2 certainly aren't.
I can vouch for it's viability in previous versions of Bakka. As far as current goes.... I can see it working fairly well in the right context. The real question will be how much different it is afterward.
But why do we even need it? Sure it may appear in Bakka fluff or whatever, but why does this "sod all AC" Bakka list have so many new carriers? Give them gunships!
But not
new gunships, because we just got done objecting to that!
That's what they're all about. While I'm rather conservative when it comes to Bakka (the whole list should remain unofficial) if we have to ratify some extreme change I'd rather it be to crap like the Mercury/Long Serpent than yet more carriers. Not that I like that ship at all. It could simply be dropped in favour of an Overlord. Give Bakka the Dauntless, Siluria, Havoc, Viper and Dominion. Ditch the Jovian and replace the Mercury with the Overlord. The Vanquisher and Victory are fine but unnecessary. The Cardinal is complete smeg.[/color]
My thoughts are ditch Jovian (which I agree is taken too often) for Exorcist (which fits fluff more closely, and is six lbs now so it can stand in), add Cardinal, Dauntless and Enforcer (with limits), as well as firestorm and (maybe) iconoclast, and allow the 20cm ships to take a +5cm speed upgrade for a to be determined point cost increase.
Also, ditch the awkward admech rule and bring back the old FDT. Your insistence on removing FDT from regular IN, Sig, is what lead to the admech rule and some of the more complicated rules juggling that has gone on.
The 2010 Bakka list has no access to Defiants, Enforcers, Dictators, Exorcists, Mars or Oberons.
Unless you reserve them in, or use the Admech rules to take them.