BFG:R Voting 56: Defiant Light Cruiser 2

[Tyberius]

I favor Option 6 at 105pts.

me too.....

[BaronIveagh]

It looks like options six and seven are our clear run off candidates.

[horizon]

With a notion that option six was based on option 5. So: option 5 voters: would you either pick option 6 or 7?

[BaronIveagh]

With a notion that option six was based on option 5. So: option 5 voters: would you either pick option 6 or 7?

Horizon, in interest of fairness, we can't actually prove that anyone cast a particular vote (AFAIK). 

[AndrewChristlieb]

Ive already switched mine from 5 to 6 but I do think it needs one of the minor tweeks mentioned to be worth more than 100pts and it should retain the current 2/500 restriction.

[Dragon Lord]

Too late for me to vote, but I prefer option 6 at 105pts, the three launch bay option is interesting and would be my second choice.

[afterimagedan]

Alright, 6 and 7 are the winners here. I would like to put up a vote between the two. I was thinking option 6 at 105pts with no restriction except the already existing Endeavor, Endurance, and Defiant restriction. Option 7, what restrictions? How should it look in the vote?

[BaronIveagh]

*Shrug*


How about 3 per 1k?

[AndrewChristlieb]

Given the price difference there I would leave them both with the same restriction.

[afterimagedan]

Given the price difference there I would leave them both with the same restriction.

You mean, both should have the 1 endurance or defiant per endeavor restriction?

[AndrewChristlieb]

No I thought that we had gone to the 2/500 restriction for Endurance/Defiants.

[Sigoroth]

No I thought that we had gone to the 2/500 restriction for Endurance/Defiants.

Can you tell me how that is an effectual limit? Even if we made the Defiant dirt cheap in a 750 pt list you could spend 400 pts on Defiants (53%). I mean, if you only bought 3 Defiants and an Emperor you get 14 AC for 665 pts. If there was no limit on Defiants at all you could buy 7, getting 14 AC for 700 pts ... So, what's the point of that limit again?

It doesn't stop you from maxing out launch bays in a beardy fashion and in larger games there simply is no point in spamming nothing but Defiants anyway. Unless you mean 2 per full 500 pts, in which case you may as well say 1/500 pts or part, as that's a slightly better progression and more meaningful restriction (1 at 500, 2 at 750, 2 at 1000, 3 at 1250 vs 2 at 500, 2 at 750, 4 at 1000, 4 at 1250).

[AndrewChristlieb]

Umm thats what the limit is right now... If it needs to be tweaked then lets do it, 1/500?

[Khar]

Whatever happens, don't bring obligatory endeavor rule back - Having to take one ship specifically in order to  be able to take another is rarely a good idea, as it forces too much of a fleet composition on the player.

1/500 wouldn't be so bad, though, if we're really afraid of AC spaming. That would mean Endeavor has no restriction, Endurance 2/500, Defiant 1/500. Seems like a fair progression.