Rule bending BaronI. That is what you are doing.
In the text of the Mars, Excorcist and Defiant it is written as Jovian Launch Bay components.
Jovian Launch Bays is not written in both tables whichs lists launch bays. It is either Escort Bays (for light cruiser, specifically designed or Landing bays (not for light cruisers.
The Defiant has written light cruisers.
By your token a light cruiser could muster a nova cannon. (if you stretch your reasoning long enough
Pre-Installed components still have to follow the rules of placement.
It cannot be so hard to understand.
*sigh*
"The Carrier ability should specify that the Jovian-class Launch Bay Components are Landing Bays."
I'm not bending a thing. In fact, I'm upholding their ruling on this.
Yes, if they wrote a light cruiser in the book that has the 'Inherent Warship' ability, yes, we'd have a LC with a mars pattern nova cannon and an armored prow (and would get the NC at a 1 space discount, the same as the 'Torpedo Specialist's get a 1 space discount on their torpedo tubes).
(And don't think they wouldn't have if it suited them. They did add, after all, Chaos Light Cruisers to their line up, and you might recall the tantrums that have been thrown over
that issue, occasionally by people on this very board.)
They did not write that hypothetical ship into the book, but they did write Defiant into the book, they gave it the 'Carrier' ability and when asked for clarification on the ability they said:
"The Carrier ability should specify that the Jovian-class Launch Bay Components are Landing Bays."
The
only way that Defiant follows the apparent rules for that ability is if they have the str 2 launch bays, which
exactly matches what they said the carrier rule should say.
It lost that vote.
No, it didn't. I had to write in my vote because it would not allow me to use the voting button (this was not corrected until after that vote was over). Which made it a draw.
Well it's rather an explanation. I mean, it's plausible, right? So, as an alternative explanation to the notion that Jovians aren't "much hated because they almost passed the vote for inclusion" it stands. It may not be true, but it's a plausible explanation.
Ok, I'll agree with that. It is a plausible explanation, and not en entirely unreasonable statement. The same could be said of other votes that have gone through are plausibly explained by people seeking to improve their favored fleet lists competitiveness as well. (The Bastion Fleets have certainly been getting a buff).
I would like to correct some inaccuracies with these stances. Your stance, for example, isn't "I like it", it's "I want supercarrier IN". Horizon's stance is not, as he has pointed out, anti-AC for IN either. And as for my stance ... well alright you nailed that one on the head.
I'll add that one 'no one ever opposed lances on SM VBBs' despite 10 pages of people ranting and opposing exactly that. Though, I grant, Horizon has softened his position on it of late.
My position has always been that the best way to fix Defiant is to increase it's lbs. Even at 4 it only increases it to equal Chaos, the fleet that IN is supposed to be balanced against.