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Offline Vaaish

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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2013, 01:16:07 AM »
I wouldn't. Adds an exception and we should aim for as few exceptions as possible.
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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2013, 01:21:23 AM »
Ok, so we just want to add the rule that any type of carrier ship must be taken like reserves (3 cruiser/1 carrier)? If this is what we want to do, I will get the vote up. 

After this, we just need modifications to the Vanquisher and Victory, right?
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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2013, 02:05:25 AM »
Maybe this:

Due to suspicions regarding the use of attack craft, fleets using Battlefleet Bakka may only take ships with launch bays under reserve rules. Unless otherwise stated, these ships are still part of Battlefleet Bakka and may be used as reserves in other Imperial Navy fleets.

So are we treating the battleships as they appear in FAQ2010 or starting from the BFG-R rules?
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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2013, 02:13:30 AM »
Due to suspicions regarding the use of attack craft, fleets using Battlefleet Bakka may only take ships with launch bays under reserve rules. Unless otherwise stated, these ships are still part of Battlefleet Bakka and may be used as reserves in other Imperial Navy fleets.

Love it. I will put the vote up. As far as the battleships, I am not sure. That's up to you guys.

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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2013, 03:13:37 AM »
I wouldnt exclude them, theyre already only available as reserves anyway.
I don't make the rules, I just think them up and write them down.

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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #50 on: February 28, 2013, 03:16:49 AM »
Well yeah, I just mean whatever changes to them.

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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2013, 04:49:47 AM »
Changes to vote on to finish Bakka:
-Rath at 150
-Victory at 355 and wb 9 dorsal wbs.

Anything else? Once we are done with this, I can clean up the documents and have a finished IN PDF. JOY
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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2013, 06:23:52 AM »
What's the rationale for the dorsal boost and price increase again?
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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2013, 01:14:33 PM »
Its equivilant to a BBB Retribution with a Nova in its base form = 355points. The dorsal weapons boost isnt needed at all, but its more fitting with similar ships.
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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2013, 03:31:48 PM »
Ok to the points increase. I'd almost think it should be in Emperor territory since it packs everything good about the apoc with no downside. 

I would lean against the dorsal weapons boost if there is no balance reason to adjust it. Not every battleship needs to be the same and the 4x lances per side at 60cm make me nervous about giving it better battery strength to complement those lances.
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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2013, 04:03:00 PM »
Do keep in mind, the victory has 2 less 60cm lances on each side.  That's a big deal.

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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2013, 05:32:18 PM »
Not horribly so. It has 60cm range naturally with no penalty for firing or required SO/LD test. You are only averaging 1 hit or so more with those two additional lances on the apoc.
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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2013, 07:34:02 PM »
Vaaish, check the BFG:R current version that has been voted on in the original BFG:R:

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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2013, 09:27:22 PM »
I think thats the link to the current BFG-R fleet lists.

I dont see the Victory in the original BFG-R just the Vanq
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Re: BFG:R Battlefleet Bakka
« Reply #59 on: March 04, 2013, 12:21:09 AM »
I'm not seeing either the Vanquisher or Victory in that link Dan.
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