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Should we change the Thunderhawk Annihilator to have D3 attacks when bombing instead of D6?

Yes, make it official.
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No, needs more work.
6 (50%)

Total Members Voted: 12

Voting closed: November 17, 2012, 01:48:04 AM

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Offline Sigoroth

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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2012, 01:35:04 AM »
How does it make sense for a THA to do d6 against BBs and d3 against everything else? I don't think that SMs should have bombers at all, but if they have to have them then just make them d3 attacks.
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Offline horizon

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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2012, 05:44:15 AM »
I agree, different attack dice per enemy class is kinda daft. And wrong.
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Offline Talos

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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2012, 07:32:02 PM »
Siding with Sig and horizon on this one, as in although it could work, it would be mechanically unique when SM don't even really need bombers in the first place. They are still better fighter-bombers than an ork fighter-bomber, and they should be happy with that. :)
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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2012, 07:37:52 PM »
Quote from: Talos on November 17, 2012, 07:32:02 PM
Siding with Sig and horizon on this one, as in although it could work, it would be mechanically unique when SM don't even really need bombers in the first place.

Again, need is not in the question. Chaos does not NEED marks not any list besides one.

 They are still better fighter-bombers than an ork fighter-bomber, and they should be happy with that. :)

Alright well we need to change something. Do we need to take the same vote for D3 again?
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Offline eyeslikethunder

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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2012, 06:48:32 AM »
How about a middle ground option this time?
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Offline Sigoroth

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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2012, 07:00:22 AM »
Quote from: eyeslikethunder on November 18, 2012, 06:48:32 AM
How about a middle ground option this time?

That's what I was going for. An extremely good option would be to delete the THA. An extremely bad one would be to go for d6 attacks. D3 attacks is middle ground.
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Offline eyeslikethunder

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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2012, 05:58:53 AM »
I would consider removing them a better option than making them an option thats worse in all ways than the default option SM have in the TH. Its better list making

Thats the sort of thing everyone critises GW for. Filling Lists with options no one uses
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They should be happy with that
BFG-R should be better than that

Sounds like you did not get to vote for the option you wanted neither did I so lets put all the options up and see what people want to vote for
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Offline horizon

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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2012, 06:20:18 AM »
Then lets remove it.  ;D
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Offline Talos

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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2012, 06:23:32 AM »
@eyeslikethunder If you are talking to me, I personally think the SM do not need access to the TA. I merely mean't to underline that a resilient fighter bomber is a good piece of ordnance, even if it only gets d3 attacks. I just think that the d3 is the middle ground that we should trod for overall peace. ;)

Seahawk ended up winning adepticon using a SM army, which most people consider fairly weak. I imagine the addition of bombers, even if they are weaker than traditional ones, would not have weakened his army significantly. As a matter of fact, it probably would have done quite the opposite.

P.S. Very true about Gee Dubs and useless options (Wait, an all Chaos Spawn army? Tell me more...how often do you hear that fervent desire? Never is most likely.)
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Offline Bessemer

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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2012, 07:28:07 PM »
Now the votes tied, what happens? Second round? Or does someone get a decider?
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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2012, 09:25:06 PM »
I think we should start a second round of voting for D3 and see how it goes.
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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2012, 03:07:40 PM »
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Seahawk ended up winning adepticon using a SM army, which most people consider fairly weak. I imagine the addition of bombers, even if they are weaker than traditional ones, would not have weakened his army significantly. As a matter of fact, it probably would have done quite the opposite.
Oh god yes. My third  opponent was Eldar, so I was all like "derpaderp, here go my assault boats!" I never realized I could launch Thunderhawk Annihilator (hey, it was my third game in like two years :P) simply because I was so used to only having the normal Thunderhawks.

D6 resilient fighter/bombers would have made the game far more in my favor, had I actually done it. Doi...I'll have to remember it for next year...they might make a triumphant return, bwahahaha...;)
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Offline eyeslikethunder

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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2012, 02:54:30 PM »

Ah I wanted seahawks opinion as fellow marine player

how about d3 attacks how often do you think you would have used them? and against which fleets/ships?
How much better would they make the fleet?
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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2012, 03:57:50 PM »
I probably wouldn't bother using them then. I'd rather cause 4+ assured critical hits than possibly, likely 0 damage and nothing at all, especially on battleships. The limited attack craft I can launch means it needs to be as effective as possible, so D3 would be only effective, and barely at that, vs cruisers and escorts.
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Re: BFG:R Space Marine TH Annihilator
« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2012, 04:28:14 PM »
Quote from: Sigoroth on November 18, 2012, 07:00:22 AM
Quote from: eyeslikethunder on November 18, 2012, 06:48:32 AM
How about a middle ground option this time?

That's what I was going for. An extremely good option would be to delete the THA. An extremely bad one would be to go for d6 attacks. D3 attacks is middle ground.

I agree with this.

Should I put up another vote for D3?
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