I think you misunderstand me. When i said the bigger bugs have suffecient shields i was refering to the adult hives. Of course the battleship and smaller vessels should retain the ability to gain an additional shield. I dont think it would be such a big deal for battleships to have the same price as cruisers tho. If its a set 15 points for a shield thats fine, i dont even know if it would be that big of a deal for the space hulk seeing as even with +1 it would still only have 4 total.
Gotcha. Though, the adult hive (if that's what you mean by hulk) has 5 shields right now. So let's put it at 15pts, no escorts, no adult hive. Sound good?
I see what Plaxor was doing; he made Massive Claws into 1D6 attacks each and upped the number of claws each vessel has. Let's keep the old version.
SHIPSAdult Hive - No idea yet though from what I am calculating, it's a ways underpriced.
Adolescent Hive - Smothermans out to 250 with 5+ armor. That is where I would put it.
-Juvenile Hive smothermans to 157.5 but will have a few knocked off because of "massive" quality (meaning cannot use CTNH special orders). This is when I have it at 5+ armor. 155pts.
-Kraken Carnivore - This smothermans out to 110 with 5+ armor (not 5+/4+ rear) and switching to the old massive claws would mean that we should have 1 dorsal and 1 keep (not 2 and 2)
-Leviathan Prowler smothermans (yes, it's a verb) to 64 pts, and adding the highlighter quality that the vanguard drones get, seems like it would bring it to 70, where it's at now.
-Emergent drone ship smothermans correctly at 60 pts. I think this is an awesome ship for tyranids to have for transports.
-Kraken predators. The question is, do we make it 2 hits & 1 shield? 2 hits, 4+save? 1 hit, 4=save? I think the weapon profiles have to change because we are not using plaxors massive claw rules but the old version (I assume). Deathburner breed is fine. Ramsmiter should be feeder tendrils 1, massive claws 1, pyroacid 2. Comparing it with the old points costs, that should make them at even points.
-Leviathan Vanguard profile is fine. Very similar to the old Vanguard.
-Drone Escort should be 25pts with 5+ armor, the pyroacid option should have 4 pyroacid, not 3, the bioplasma option should have 2 bioplasma, not 1. This makes it closer to the old version.