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Offline Shortsonfire79

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[BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« on: June 23, 2012, 06:59:32 AM »
Hello TacticalWargames, I'd like to present you with my Imperial Navy fleet.  I've yet to write any stories about it besides some Solar Admiral stuff, but I'll write fleet fiction in due time.  Majority of the stuff I'd like to show you now is already finished, but with the 10 picture limit, I'll have to ration my first few posts.  I'm trying to catch up with a three year long plog...not like I was productive all three years, but its still an old one. :)

I'll start off with my flagship.  She was previously named The Glory and bristles with various forms of weaponry.  It is a combination of a bunch of parts from a Retribution Battleship, a Space Marine Battlebarge, two Space Marine cruisers, and a bunch of little weapons from Chaos cruisers.  The first few pictures are of it in the works in progress, and the final two are complete, the last being a scale shot.  You'll see those three ships in the near future. :)








Sweet victory! Refreshing the page enough eventually got the bot question to change from Warmaster to Specialist Games! :)
Thanks for looking, hopefully this thread will take off and I'll be able to show off all of my BFG!

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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2012, 12:27:25 PM »
Looks good! That Sword is pretty interesting there also, is that going to be an attempt and a Rouge Trader style prow? Looking forward to seeing more!
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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2012, 10:18:28 PM »
Thank you AndrewChristlieB, that is a rogue trader ship, though it won't have any of the Imperial Eagle markings.  It's already finished, but in retrospect I should have done the small castle above the prow. :/

I also made a modular support ship.  This will be cast once I think that all the parts are perfect.  I'm not satisfied with the troop transport so that'll need work before I pour the silicone.
Size shot.

Armed Freighter

Escort Carrier

Fuel Transport

Troop Transport  This one could use a bit more work.  I'm still debating on it.



A couple of Rogue Trader ships.  One is a frigate one is a 'grand cruiser' that I made out of a chaos cruiser.  It lacks detail but its alright for now.



An Inquisitorial Black ship.


And this is my most recent model (finished June 6th 2012).  I finished the Catalyst class battleship (Yet to be named) and it is now at the same standard as the rest of the fleet.  This ship for points and rules sake will be counted as an Emperor class battleship.  I started this sometime before May of 2011, and it took a full year for it to be completed...


And if you remember this drifting hulk (wow, look at my old Apple G4!):
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how it'll look on a stand


I scrapped it and turned it into two Overlord class cruisers.  I was tempted to make one a Tyrant class, just to mix things up (and its cheaper) but I opted against it. :P  You may also notice that they don't have the traditional IN bridges... I couldn't find them. :(  I assume that one of the bridges went to the =][= Blackship and the other is the forward command center of the Catalyst class battleship.  That is okay though, I like the way that these will be slightly different than the rest, possibly coming from a different Forgeworld or something.


I'll try and get a fleet shot in once I finish the next 3 cruisers.  I hope to find some spare cash to pick up a couple more and maybe even a Dauntless light cruiser or two sometime soon.  Thanks for looking. :D

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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 11:12:37 PM »
Here is a compilation of my last 20 days of work.

I was lieing in bed Wednesday reading Lexicanum and the BFGwiki and stumbled upon this blurb of text:
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These [battleship] ships are superseded by the even larger pre-Age of Strife advanced superships that are reserved for larger combat or exterminatus missions. Such ships are similar to the huge space forts, planetary sized battle-hulks, and doomsday bastions yet are far more mobile and capable of fighting like standard battlefleets. They are mustered in far greater numbers and utilize battleship sized escorts as part of far more powerful Devastation Blockades and Sentinal Forces, which routinely crush Hive fleets or Chaos daemonworlds, or guard dangerous powers on quarantined worlds. The most powerful ships are kept totally in secret shipyard-crypts such as the Caelan Class Sunderer vessel (rumored to be able to fire and anhilatate any target in any time or location, far too powerful to used except by the Emperor Himself) and other powerful doomsday-class voidships.
I really liked the idea of my fleet with its OP battleships being docked at an unlisted Imperial fortress-world ready to defend some segmentae from another massed Tyranid invasion.  I figured I could write some fluff for this that one or two people would read, or I could make a model depicting what my fleet has done, and how they lost one of their battleships. (I had been wanting to make a decrepit hulk anyways)  This also gave me the opportunity to make a Nid ship or two as well...

So I started the June competition after an hour nap on Thursday... (this is 2AM when I woke up...)


And two hours later I had finished the main battleship hull assembly.

After talking with Raxxus and Sachiel in the Skype chat I got the second part of the competition piece 'fleshed out'.  The armature is tinfoil that was dipped in resin.  Initially it looked a little like a bent space-poop, so I gave it a bulbous butt to give it more of a hive ship/breeding sack kind of feel.

The idea is to have the Nid ship smashing into the Retribution and snapping it in half like the first picture above, from the Battlefleet_Bakka.pdf with clusters of tendrils breaching the hull and ripping panels off the ship.  I definitely want some tendrils breaking the figurehead off.


I've also been taking the time to make as many tentacles as I could.  I figured that it'd be well fitting to my heritage. ;)  I've also started making fangs to replicate the Kraken mouth from Pirates of the Carribbean.  This picture also shows the direction I want to go with the sculpting on the resin body.  I took a lot of ideas from the Forgeworld Meiotic spore sacks.  I really liked the brain look to the models so I plan on going with a lot of the veins and exhaust things.  I also like the idea of the matter sacks and feeder tendrils so those will go in there.  I'm going to add 5 chitin plates on top and 3 brain-holes on the side to replicate the 40k models.  I'm also contemplating adding 6 legs, wings, or appendages to also follow the theme though they may not fit quite well, in space.  The 3 large tentacles will have chitin plates as well replicating those on the lictor.  I'll also be using Digit's tutorial on explosions for where the hull breaches are.



While digging for any Tyranid bits I had, any at all, I found a single untouched metal lictor and a built warrior... whoopee.  But while digging in my bitz box, I did manage to find four full Imperial cruisers and two full Chaos cruisers!! Sweet!  I also started work on the Armageddon cruiser (the one without the prow) and I made a Tie Interceptor and Tie Defender.  The wings were ridiculously difficult to work with and I'm not 100% pleased.  It'll do for now though.


On the yellow sheet of paper, you can see a six classes of Imperial cruisers listed.  I'll be using the four cruisers I found to make those (already have a Armageddon and a Gothic) and I'll only need another pack of Sword frigates and I'll have a 1450 fleet.  I am pretty certain that this fleet is legal since I found it on Warseer and made by Vaaish, an avid BFGer.

So I've been doing a lot of work for the competition, but I figured I should quickly paint up the two cruisers that I had presented last time.  So I just spent some time finishing them up.  I learned that the bases don't accept hand paint too well, so when I spray the comp I'll do the bases too.


And heres how the competition piece is sitting so far.  Waiting for the current batch of greenstuff to harden so I can move on.  The brain-veins will have smaller veins branching off once I figure out how to sculpt them, they'll also extend into the carapace to add a look of continuity.  The remaining three carapace pieces require greenstuff, and the main head piece will post likely be fully sculpted so that I can make it overhang the mouth part.  I'm really not too pleased with the PotC Kraken mouth as of yet, and I may rip it off and resculpt it like the Leviathan from the Avengers.  Currently though, I'm not too worried since it'll be mostly covered in explosions anyways.  The 3 main tentacles will be added after the 4th plate is done.  Where I had planned to have one of the main tentacles to go has ended up being in the place where the 4th/5th carapace plates meet, so I may either have them split or have some sort of joining piece there. The 3 face-vents will be sculpted after the main tentacles are added.




Finally finished the first Lunar class cruiser.  Took a while to sort out the prow since I some time ago snipped it off...I guess... I also assembled the four discovered cruisers as well.  Two Armageddons and two Dictators.  I'm one Lunar and three Sword frigates away from a playable 1500 fleet list. :)



This was a post from Warseer that I couldn't get enough laughs out of.  I'm sure Lewis will get the same enjoyment. :D


I also worked on the tentacle plates.  I'm not entirely too pleased with them but they were really difficult to do near the tips so I just left them as is.


And I'm almost done with the most difficult part of the sculpt: The head chitin plate.  I had no idea of how I wanted to work it and I think the way it finally turned out is suitable enough for what I wanted.  Once this third layer of greenstuff (for that single plate) hardens, I'll sculpt some stuff around the third tentacle similar to that of the Barbed Hierodule.  I will also add 1-2 longer plates on the tentacles near the body as well.  The 3 exhaust points near the head will probably be sculpted last.  I'm dryfitting the rest of the tentacles as well, thats an interesting situation, I may need to make another 30+ tendrils for what I want to execute.


What I'm also really pleased with is the fact that the body of this thing is about the length of an IN cruiser, so not oversized (in my opinion) at all!  It does seem to have more mass (fat butt) but I don't think its overly large.


My sister and I also bought my father an air compressor and nailgun, so I'm tempted to purchase an airbrush to give these black bases a bit of a theme, maybe some nebulae or something.

The SDTM (Space Dick Tentacle Monster as coined by Sachiel) is at a point where I am almost ready to paint.  With my six week summer course starting tomorrow, my time with the June comp has definitely been shortened.  At least I was able to get the bulk of the work done in the past 10 days.  I have some minor sculpts to fix (there was some massive snapping when I tried the double pinning...) and I need to fix one of the chitin plates on the center tentacle because of the extreme curve that I put on it which was expected.  After the fix ups, I have 64 smaller tentacles to attach in clusters of 20 or so.  Some will be smashing through bulkheads and some will be wrapping around the hull just like the Bakka image.  I glued the bottom most main tentacle a bit too close to the center one (wasn't planned, just wound up like that) so I'll need to rethink how I plan on doing that.  I am really pleased how it looked on a flying stand.  I think it was almost passable to be a cruiser or hive ship.  Someone (Sachiel) suggested adding some crater marks along the chitin which I attempted, but just couldn't pull off.  Instead I will just paint on some blast marks and scoring later on.

I had no idea of what I was doing with the head chitin plate, so I just made a protective shroud (which doesn't actually protect it from a frontal assault) and called it good.  I've about burned myself out on sculpting anyways. :p  I realize that the area around the maw looks really dumb so I'll probably add some lip-like features sometime.  The base has also warped, so I glued more popsicle sticks underneath perpendicular to those already there.  It helped a little but not a lot.  I'm contemplating just scrapping this base and using the other spare that I have.  We'll see!

Enough gab, the pictures!




Let me know what you think, many thanks!

And so, on with the work.  My six week summer course is now one week in and so I've found little time to work on this.  I've just been playing with small batches of tentacles. :)  The hardest part was figuring out how to get them to look on the outer end of the ship.  I think I've done a decent job. :p



I really like how this single tentacle is taking down the angel at the bridge.  I'll probably find more ways to incorporate singular pieces like that somewhere.

I also want to find a way to make the forward most dorsal lance turret look as if it were hit by bio-acid, which is why it didn't manage to fully rotate around.  Not sure how I'll go about doing that without making it look Nurgle-ified, so I'll brainstorm on that for a bit.  I still have a while, right? :)  The hive fleet that I'm thinking I'll go with are either Leviathan or Kraken (or something different all together) to help contrast the blue/black colors of the fleet.


Let me know of what you think of the Nid ship! Thanks all.

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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 04:37:55 PM »
Im usually not that interested in BFG but thats just awesome, cant wait to see it painted! :) Are these small GS tentacles going to survive transportation though?
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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2012, 06:54:44 PM »


Seriously man, that is just top shelf!
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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2012, 04:58:32 AM »
Incredible work!  Everything about this thread it pretty cool!
The Battleship is very nice,  I wasn't sure with some of the WIPs but it really came together.
The transport is good too.
The diorama is really top notch!  It looks like it's going to be really stunning.
The prow you made for that IN cruiser, really nice.  I think it distinguishes really nicely, adds some good length and looks really good.  Keep it up I cannot wait to see more from you.
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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 04:51:00 PM »
I'm not really into BFG either but you sir, are a top modeller, can't wait to see this painted!

You could even do a scenario around the break up of a ship that contains key personnel/information/equipment and the tryranids and the imperials are both swarming round, trying to hoover up the most life boats as they pop out from the dying capital ship!

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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 10:00:52 PM »
Thanks guys. :D
Guthwine: I probably won't be taking it out of my room much, but all of the greenstuff work are coated in ultra-thin (~viscosity of water) superglue, so hopefully everything will be ok.
David Wasilewski: Thanks! :)  I think that'd be a pretty cool scenario.

Alright, so heres the second time stamp, this time for painting.  I burnt myself out on the green stuffing so I'm just calling it good here, there wasn't much else for me to do anyways.  I've gone ahead and started the main coat of blue on the battleship.  That was a challenge.  I had trouble getting around some of the single tentacles, but overall I think it has turned out pretty well so far.  The picture is really washed out which kind of sucks.  I couldn't get a good one for some reason.



I also took a stab at the Digits explosions... it wasn't a success, but it wasn't an overall failure.  I think I may know how to paint them now, and since I used a Q-tip to paint the two pieces as testers, the ones painted by brush may turn out slightly better.  Because I didn't want to add them to the ship before painting, I'm going to paint several in all yellow-orange-red colors for the fire and I'll lay gray/white ones on top of them to simulate the outer part of the explosion.  There will probably not be a lot of smoke, I'll try to stick close to semi-realistic themes for this. Armageddon 1, Armageddon 2, Armageddon 3, Star Wars. Yeah the Star Wars one is iffy, but its still a decent space explosion..


And after drybrushing the IN cruiser I went on with laying down some colors for the nid ship.  I've been following a how to on the TyranidHive and I've found that I only have one of the colors that the fella uses, so I've been trying to mix and match my eight paints to get things to work. 

The first layer, which was to look like plague brown came out like a keylime pie green... so I made another mixed with more red than yellow and got a bit closer, then layered on some goblin poo brown as Tinners puts it, but I think its Gryphonne Sepia.  Now we're pretty close.  More brown than yellow but I'm okay with that.

^ That large bottle to the right should be straight Bleached Bone.


You may also notice that there are some chess pieces/drawings in that last picture.  I've been messing around with some soft wood(you can see the fail on the right side of the pic) to carve some chess pieces.  I'll work on it a bit. :p
Thanks for looking!

Also, I'm not quite sure as to why the pictures are so big...they were uploaded to photobucket at the same settings as usual.

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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2012, 12:07:57 AM »
good stuff, I like how the nid is turning out there it almost looks like it has some vestigial legs on the rear (not sure what they are but that's what popped into my mind and I think its cool!) that really helps me to see this as a living creature. On the explosions I think Columbia looks best, the tie isn't too bad either but there is only so much ignitable material on board one of those I think what your seeing is more the glow of super heated metal. That said your attempts are very close to the pictures and layered versions should look great.
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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2012, 10:01:03 AM »
Really impresive I like a lot your design, I would have add more details on the white/yellow part, but your tentacles are awesome, I would  like to try to make ones for my nids but I left them in Spain  :(.

Maybe I should start a new fleet  :P.

Anyways I like a lot your design and your boarding scene is just the best I have seen of battlefleet gothic.

Great job  ;D
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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2012, 11:10:45 PM »
Impressive modeling work

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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2012, 08:12:52 AM »
AndrewChristlieb: Thanks.  I don't even know why I added legs on a space creature, but I really liked the idea. XD On the explosions, I didn't post any pictures of Columbia, do you mean the Armageddon pictures?  If so, I agree, the Tie Fighter just doesn't look right at all.
Harec: Thanks. I've seen your nid thread and really wished I had been around to take ideas from that!  Now that its painted, I agree in that the sides and bottom are vastly under-detailed, but theres no going back now. :(  I agree, its time for you to start a new fleet. :D Or get your stuff from Spain!
Thanks Fracas. :D

Anyways, in the contest thread I had said that I wasn't anywhere near done, and I wasn't.  But today instead of studying for the calculus exam on Wednesday followed by the final Thursday, I finished up 90% of the Space Dick Tentacle Monster.  As I painted it, since it isn't glued onto the base yet I had to figure out a way to hold it where I wouldn't be rubbing the paint off of the carapace...this was my solution.  Rather difficult but it worked.

I painted the carapace and all the little gimpy vestigial tentacles as well as painted majority of the metals on the battleship.  The metals haven't been highlighted yet and I need to add running lights.  The explosions have been painted and I just need to figure out the best places to put them without overdoing it.



I'm on the fence with the idea of putting some green paint on the second dorsal lance battery.  I modeled it to look as if it had been hit with some bioacid, but I think green wouldn't really fit with the model.  I'm thinking maybe some sort of pink but I'm not sure about how I'll go about doing that yet.
Thanks for looking, hopefully I'll be finished before the comp deadline!

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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2012, 11:49:03 AM »
Sorry, the pictures said they were the shuttle Columbia but yes I see your links say Armageddon.
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Re: [BFG] Space...it seems to go on forever.
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2012, 03:03:20 AM »
Two words: ridiculously awesome.
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