Defiant has prow torps and lance is this intentional and would it not be under priced adding the torps? Maybe the weps that are standard on the endeavour and the lances if you want 2 prow weapon types.
It is completely intentional, it was the only option that could be agreed upon for the vessel whilst leaving it in the game. Simply giving it 2 launch bays per side (as it should have by the size of the bays), was regarded as too easy access for the IN. Some suggestions were made for this, such as requiring players to have one Endeavor or Endurance with it, however that is an echo of the old restriction, which was removed with FAQ 2010. Players generally feel that it isn't in the Imperial fleet's character to have low launch bay to vessel cost ratios (they sit at about the highest of any fleet, at 52.5 for their base cruiser, chaos is at 47.5 and Orks at 45.)
So we took some creative initiative, and presumed that the vessel has increased capacity due to the limited launch bays, and is able to fit in the more powerful weapons. This allows it to be an option, like Horizon said, It isn't the best thing in the world, but you won't feel bad for taking it.
Also was it intentional for the voss pattern ships to get the 6+ prow AND 90* turns? On that note is there a chance of seeing an option to increase the armor on the other light cruisers or even better (to keep the voss originality) a +1 to shields on dauntless types.
Yes. This was an absolute necessity to make them more competitive with mainline cruisers, allowing for the 'CL' Armageddon fleet to be viable. Voss' Cls function more like standard IN cruisers, so they need a competitive edge vs the cruisers. The Dauntless has speed and a powerful concentrated firepower, something quite valuable to the IN.
How about seeing an option to upgrade the hydra's 6 30cm with 45cm batteries for +15 pts ala tyrant but with a higher cost (as your "upgrading" more weps)
No. See my post above about perfect weapons. The Hydra is meant to be a 'throwaway ship', it is the cheapest IN cruiser available, and is treated as such in its fluff. It makes no reference of being able to take more powerful weapons as per the Tyrant.
The Hydra's long ranged weapons are simply a 'quirk' that may help you, but are much more likely not to do anything. The vessel is not intended to fill the role of a long range support vessel, and simply functions as a cheap baseline cruiser. In the Warden's fleet, one would likely look towards 'downgraded' dominators, with their increased range for such a vessel. Then again one of the themes of the Warden's fleet is its limited supplies and sub-par fighting vessels.
What happened to the viper... This is an awesome little ship and much loved.
This is comparable love that people had for the Sedito Opprimere. The Viper is strange in a number of ways, just a Cobra (best non-eldar escort!) but better. The vessel didn't really provide anything unique to the fleet, and wasn't worth the pages.
That said I'm not completely opposed to it being included, particularly if the Bakka fleet makes it back in. Probably would be modelled out of 2 cobras, extending the chassis.
Option to increase turrets for armageddon? Only reason for mentioning this is its currently the only cb that does not either already have or have the option to get 3 turrets.
Not really necessary. The Overlord/Mars upgrades were just hangovers from BFG 1.0, when apparently they thought such an upgrade was valuable. The two new BCs have the turrets, primarily for balance. Again..... not every option forever.
Avenger cg is listed as 12 hits
Apparently the Avenger is now the Greatest vessel ever.
J/K, whoops, I'm disappointed I missed this. Oh well, can't catch every mistake.
Dominator should be listed as -nova +6 torps for 180 instead of +4 torps imo as this fits better with the other in cruisers in terms of weapon loadout/ cost.
No. Players wanted such a trade-off, but the Dominator receives its Nova for a discount. In an attempt to influence players to prefer the NC, the cost wasn't decreased as much as it would suggest. The 4-torps is from Kar Duniash Cruiser design, which utilize fewer torpedo tubes. Although this isn't necessary, the Dominator is only currently available in the Warden's fleet... if you look at their fleet list you will notice that all cruisers have only 4 torps. This was the method used for making the fleet unique from other IN fleets, allowing a slightly easier access to AC, but fewer torps to compensate. Again the Warden's fleet has a significant loss in firepower/survivability ratio per point of cost as compared to other IN.
On the last note can we see the cost to upgrade armageddon/lunar/tyrant to nova drop to 10?
I feel the NC is adequately priced, certainly you're losing a weapon, but they are much more viable with the new bands and LO. Besides reducing the cost would only see you 30 points at 1500. Also note the 'cheaper' NCs in the Wardens, as they lose less torps.
And on space marine ships how about getting the nova frigate an additional turret, its the only frigate with 1 turret and its the most expensive
The Nova Frigate allows SMs access to Lances, it is faster than the Gladius, and is able to fire its lance LFR. It is adequate. Besides, I thought it dropped 5 pts?
I'd like a puppy too
-Your fleet may include a single puppy as it's pet. If it is at least 600 points it must include a puppy to lead it.