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Offline Dan_Lee

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Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« on: September 19, 2011, 07:05:09 PM »
It looks like GW have started to re-launch old specialist games as one-off boxed releases, with space hulk a couple of years ago and now dreadfleet (at least looking like a remake of man-o-war [is that its name?]).

Do you think BFG could get this treatment in the future? Would you like it?


I can't decide on either question myself. BFG is still available on the GW website so isn't quite as dead and forgotten as man-o-war was. But if it were to be re-launched as a one off I'm sure we'd get a dozen or so great models and it could re-kindle interest in true BFG.
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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 08:56:45 PM »
Actualy BFG is there-launch of an earlier boxed game of spacefleet combat .......  so it is kinda reverserd....

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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 06:16:44 AM »
Well, those Dreadfleet models don't look like they would be quite compatible with Man O' War models. At least, the models have been so updated that they would make the non-updated models look craptacular. I also suspect that there's a difference in scale. If GW were going to release more models (expansions perhaps) to round out the fleets then that would be great. I suspect that's not going to happen though.

So if GW were to do a BFG version of this, such as an updated re-release of Space Fleet, then it probably wouldn't be all that great. I say this because if they were to pour their resources into this sort of thing then they'd probably discontinue production of BFG models. If they didn't do that then at worst this would be neutral news (ie, models incompatible with BFG or merely reproduced BFG models).

Having said all that it could possibly be a good thing for BFG. If GW don't discontinue BFG and the models are compatible (scale/style) and they're new models then this would be great, else GW suck balls. This is the algorithm of GW success. They should pay more attention to it.

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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 07:36:52 AM »
I hate to agree with sig... because agreeing with sig is like dividing by zero..

but I don't hold much hope for dreadfleet being a positive thing.

Dreadfleet will be there breifly, then discarded and forgotten. BFG should not have this fate.

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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 08:44:56 AM »
I know dreadfleet will just be forgotten in a few months and so would a BFG equivalent if ever made. GW doesn't make any attempt to retain interest these days, just generate new short-term interest.

I can see your point about dropping the BFG range too, though I don't see them doing that just for the sake of it. I'd think they would be more likely to use it as an excuse to boost BFG sales.

Old models always look very poor compared to new ones, but the current BFG models are quite good so I imagine they wouldn't look too bad compared to new sculpts, assuming the scale is similar. If any new models were to be similar in size to the dreadfleet ships (which is a reasonable guess) then they'd be roughly cruiser sized. Even if they weren't, they could make good escorts (if smaller) or battleships (if bigger).
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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 08:51:21 AM »
I actually like GW doing boxed games like Dreadfleet, blast from the past, they did it frequently. But indeed I would not like to see a re-issue of Spacefleet at the cost of Battlefleet Gothic.

The old spacefleet models ain't bad at all.



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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 12:26:37 PM »
Obviously we can't tell for sure until we get our hands on the full game, but from that example of a turn the game looks very interesting.

I like the way all the ships seem to have their own character. The damage card system seems like a good idea too.
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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2011, 10:40:47 AM »
I've ordered a copy so when it arrives i can give you some informations.

To the question:

I don't think this means anything for BFG it is still totally open if they ever are interested in a relaunch.

I think if they make it in a way like dreadfleet it culd be a nice game of its own but they wouldn't use the BFG rules for such a game, because BFG is a real tabletop and not a tabletop-boardgame hybrid like dreadfleet.
Additionally some fans of BFG might be upset if they would heavily change the design of some of the fleet ships.

So even if they decide to bring out such a game i'm not sure what it would mean for BFG.

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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2011, 05:11:58 PM »
I dont think they will re-do BFG in this way as it is a specalist game and the rules are avaliable for free as well as some supliments.

To re-do it would mean GW would have to take down the BFG stuff from the website and re-luanch a new set of rules that would need to be suficently different so people could not use the existing BFG rules that we all know and love, and all have copies of. 

It just does not make sense...

As far as GW is cocerned all specalist games are dead apart from selling some existing stuff online only !!!

Its a nice dream but we need to get used to the fact that the only thing GW definately wants to do with it's specalist games is to ensure that no one else makes any money out of them.

Sorry but thats just my, rather negative, view.

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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2011, 07:21:06 PM »
This gives me the idea for 'Solar Winds' celestial phenomena effect.  Push ships 5cm a certain way.  Would be fun.

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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2011, 09:35:07 PM »
Play eldar then :D.
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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2011, 12:03:47 AM »
No but like, really strong freak winds that randomly happen.  Pushed into asteroid field, etc.

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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2011, 01:35:35 AM »
Skirmishes in the warp would be cool. Could explain a lot of weird things. 
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Re: Dreadfleet - Could BFG get the same treatment?
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2011, 02:11:48 AM »
Hmm. Has there not been a warp-based scenario?  I'm shocked.