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Offline Dragon Lord

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Re: IT IS FINISHED
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2011, 07:51:06 PM »
pg1: 'Battle fleet Bakka'
I believe it is usual to spell Battlefleet as one word, not two.

Also in the contents list Combat Air Patrol, Squadrons and General Fleet Restrictions and Options appear to have a space in front of them, which is odd.

pg2, final paragraph: 'Slannesh' should be 'Slaanesh'

pg4, Shooting, first paragraph: 'Escort squadrons have their total firepower halved as described on p.2.....'
Do you mean page 3?

More later.

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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2011, 01:27:28 AM »
Heres a question:  I thought nate went on record saying something about intended CL rules for AdMech having a 30cm dorsal lance rather than replacing the torps?  I dont see it in the admech section of the FAQ.

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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2011, 03:17:39 AM »
Heres a question:  I thought nate went on record saying something about intended CL rules for AdMech having a 30cm dorsal lance rather than replacing the torps?  I dont see it in the admech section of the FAQ.

It's one or the other (prow torps or dorsal lance), not both. Also, this only applies to the Endeavor and Endurance, not the Defiant. We didn't need to put it into the FAQ because it's already in the AdMech rules.
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Re: IT IS FINISHED
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2011, 04:10:12 AM »
Hi all! I just re-posted all the documents. They are still drafts, and the only changes so far are those pointed out on this thread so you can see feedback on the needed corrections you pointed out. The plan is still to get these closed out by Thursday night so keep the inputs coming! Thanks!
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2011, 04:42:24 AM »
Oh, thought it said the lance was prow oriented.  Very well.

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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2011, 04:59:22 AM »
Most of it is looking better, but there are a few bits that are a bit off.

Admech, p.63-64 the text in the chiseled stone boxes is almost unreadable, especially the headers with the funky drop shadow. It would be best to remove the drop shadow and lighten up the background considerably.

General:
the background watermark is still distracting on the Inquisition and Admech, pdfs. These work best when they are quite light. This might not be the same opacity for all of them, but visually they should be about as visible as on the Tau, Rogue Trader, and Chaos pdfs.
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Re: IT IS FINISHED
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2011, 07:08:06 AM »
The AdMech image could indeed be a tad lighter.

Nice fleet by the way in the AdMech document. The Defiant has been destroyed by the way. ;)
A shiny Endeavour took its place.

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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2011, 10:55:16 AM »
I pledged my soul to Clippy, the chaos god of Mistakes and here's what I found: ;)

(All in Powers of Chaos)

p 101, right column, 3rd line. an extra big whitespace after the ,

p 102, left column, 10th line of second paragraph, whitespace at the end of the line

p 103, center column doesn't line up with the others vertically (look at the last line)

p 104, center column, Line 23/24  Nur gle is spread across the line break without a -

p 108: Wage of Sin doesn't have a Prow Launch bay listed. Is that correct?

p 109: Center Paragraph doesn't line up at the bottom

p 110: The last sentence "The miasma obscures...." seems to belong to "Miasma of Pestilence" and not "Hives of Nurgle"

p 111: It's not immediately clear that the "Venegeful Spirit" is actually the same thing as the Chaos Battle Barge listed later in the fleet lists later on. Might need some clarification.

p 111: Third Paragraph, left column, line 12. vengeful isn't capitalised.

p 112: Prow Launch bays are only Strenght 2. Intentional? (It's 3 on Terminus Est and Scion).

p 116: Black Box. First Sentece: Using the forcesof chaos. Needs a space.

p 117: Box, second Paragraph, Line 4: Any ship friend or foe that touches... needs ,, around ,friend and foe,

General: The order the different gods are described (Khorne, Slaanesh, Tzeentch, Nurgle), their Ships are presented (Tzeentch, Slaanesh, Nurgle, Black Legion, Khorne, rest) and their Fleet listes are presented (Tzeentch, Nurgle, Khorne, Slaanesh) varies each time.
It would IMO ease navigation if they used the same order each time and if the Vengeful spirit was presented after the four other ones with the other generic ships.


Sorry for the nitpicking, I used the fine comb :D

PS: I suck at speeling and spotting tyops, so perhaps somebody could have a look for those too ;)
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Re: IT IS FINISHED
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2011, 08:03:41 PM »
Maybe it's just my viewer but it seems like there is now some wierd interaction going on between the background image and the text throughout the entire main document making the text appear bold where it is not over the background image.

Battlefleet Bakka section
pg 32, main sub-heading: 'THE SAVIORS OF MACCRAGE DURING THE FIRST TYRANIC WAR'
There are a number of issues with this, firstly 'Maccrage' is correctly spelt 'Macragge' and I believe that it is 'Tyrannic' with two 'n's.  Also though I realise that 'savior' is the correct spelling in the US as GW is a British company and all of their books use British spelling and grammar conventions I feel that the British spelling 'saviour' ought to be used here unless it has been decided that this document will use US spelling.  There are a number of other uses of US spelling rather than British spelling that I have recorded but I won't post them unless there is a decision as to US vs. British English (though if going for US English there are instances of British spellings that should be changed for consistency).

Other instances of the spelling 'Tyranic'
section heading for First Tyrannic war on pg 33
first paragraph of text for Jovian Battlecruiser on pg 39
last sentence of text for Siluria light cruiser on pg 42

all other instances use the spelling 'Tyrannic'

Other instances of the spelling 'Maccrage'
second paragraph of text for Dominion battlecruiser on pg 40

all other instances use the spelling 'Macragge'

pg 32, end of paragraph 2: 'Classificationae'
Though I realise that this is (and is supposed to be) pseudo-latin it just sounds a bit awkward to me, 'classificae' rolls off the tongue a little easier.  This is just an opinion though so feel free to ignore.

pg 34, 3rd paragraph, 5th sentence: capital has an erroneous apostrophe at the end.

pg 36, just above the first aquila in the middle column: 'Rath was commissioned as 12Sth Lieutenant into the....'
Do you mean '12th'?

pg 37, second paragraph of text for Victory battleship: 'Hammer of Scaro was rebuilt with prow torpedoes instead of replacing its Nova Cannon'
Either 'instead of' or 'replacing' needs to be removed.

pg 38, second paragraph of text for Vanquisher battleship: 'the ship underwent an extensive refit to repair extensive damage to its lance batteries....'
A style critique again, so feel free to ignore, but the use of the word extensive twice in such quick succession is rather awkward, I would simply remove one of them.

pg 39, second paragraph of text for Jovian, first sentence: Misspelling of Mechanicus as 'Mechaincus'

pg 42, 4th sentence of text for Siluria light cruiser: Misspelling of greenskins as 'grenskins'

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Re: IT IS FINISHED
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2011, 09:25:22 PM »
Craftworld Eldar

p139 Scenario Craftworld Assault:
With the current wording each escort ship within 45cm of the Craftworld edge will get attacked by 2 pulsar lances each turn.
In other words you can forget about sending them in. This is particularly important since the majority of assault points is scored by escort class ships.
I strongly recommend to change "...each vessel..." to "...each ship or squadron..." or maybe "...each capital ship or escort squadron...".
I'd prefer "ship or squadron".

p142 Eldar Haven special rules - Netherfield:
"On the Haven it imparts an additional column shift for all weapons that use the gunnery table."
Should say "right column shift" for clarity. You could also add this in the notes section on page 143.

p142 Eldar Haven special rules - Polarization Field:
"It does risk suffering a hit ..." missing a NOT (blast it! this one is serious!!!)

Tau Protection Fleet

p159 Campaigns:
"... though they may use special ordnance rules listed on p.159."
This should probably be page 158 (torpedo bombers and orbital mines)

p166 Tau Kor Caste Orbital City - Stats:
Launch Bays list the Barracuda with 30cm speed.

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Re: IT IS FINISHED
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2011, 02:20:31 AM »
FAQ 2010
Just noted a repetition and inconsistency on the Prow Torpedoes strength for the Tyranid hiveship:

p29 under Tyranid Weapons:
"On p91 of Armada, Tyranid Hiveships may take as a prow weapon strength 8 torpedoes for +25points"

p30 under Tyranid Ordnance:
"Tyranid hiveships have strength 6 torpedo launchers as a front-firing prow weapon option for the price indiciated on p91 of Armada" (i.e. 25 points)

Which one is it? Str8 or Str6?
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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2011, 03:00:27 AM »
Oh, and if you keep it as it is worded on p29, make sure you clarify which firing arc (i.e. front) the torps shoot at.

Thanks for all the good work :)
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2011, 10:11:51 AM »
Orks:

page 150: Blood Axes, line 3. T o is spaced.

page 151: Box line 2: ..." It is an Assault Karrier upgraded with boarding torpedoes as part of its cost and ...". The page 149 states that being Assault Karrier is free anyway... is that wrong? I read it that even the boarding torps don't cost the usual 10/Str.

p 154: Skwadrons: "The Warlord must be in command of one tiddla skwadron and one other skwadron type for every re-roll he has. "

That sentence is a bit unclear on the details. a) is it one Tiddla Skwadron per reroll or one in total? and b) is the one other Skwadron type exclusive? So could you take 2 Big Ship Skwadrons if you take 2 Re rolls?

Also the sentence that says "Each skwadron must be fielded with the number of ships chosen for it in this list" is at odds with the paragraph below that talks about combining skwadrons. Somehow that doesn't add up or requires considerable mental acrobatics to figure out what is meant.

The sentence: "There is no restriction for what kinds or how many of what type of skwadrons are in the fleet ..." clashes with the "Using Skwadrons" section on the right, that does impose restrictions.

Space Hulk:
"Space Hulks so led can take upgrades from the list of Gubbins for double the listed cost
except any upgrade that increases its boarding value or speed. "

Taken literally that sentence could mean that non-speed/bv upgrades cost twice as much and bv upgrades cost the normal cost. I'd rewrite it to "Space Hulks so led can take upgrades
from the list of Gubbins for double the listed cost. Upgrade that increases its boarding value or speed can't be taken." That would save some potential for discussions. Unless SH's are supposed to be fast and even harder to board.

That seem to be it :)

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« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2011, 04:48:07 PM »
I don't know if this ever made it in, but wasn't the Avenger reduced in price to 200 points or some such? I'm not seeing any adjustments to it's cost listed in the FAQ. Sme goes for the cost of the dictator.

There is also some odd bits of white text that says "test" in between the ship sections on the admech fleet list page.
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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2011, 05:42:26 PM »
You're probably thinking of my work, known as BFG:Revised, or formerly 'Flawed Ships' which is unofficial.