I wrote a big post this morning, but it got devoured by void whales. I am going to reply to the Invincible issue, but I'd rather cover other issues first.
From the bakka as proposed over the page:
#1. Mercury. Kind of redundant with the Overlord. What would people think if instead of having the Mercury we had the Overlord, and it had an option to upgrade to experimental engines for speed 25cm and some unstable downside for a suitable cost? A speed 25cm R60 BC would go well with a 25cm R60 BCH.
#2. Gothic BC. It needs a different name, obviously. Some other roman gods: Ceres, Janus, Apollo. Some Greek ones: Ares, Artemis, I think we're agreed on R30 broadsides. Should it have WB6@60cm on top to keep the lance count down, or L2@60cm? Is 215pts fine, or is 220 with inclusive power ram better?
#3. Siluria. Comments on 4-hits, and FP6@30cm with no Dorsals for 75-80pts? Could it possibly go to R45 if all it has is the broadsides? What about having it count as 1/2 a cruiser or even no cruiser at all?
#4. Firedagger. I've been talking to Plaxor about this, and we like the "flak field" idea - as a passive ability it provides better protection than "hitting ordnance on a 4+" because it will even provide protection in the enemy Ordnance phase, whilst as it's not a particularly strong and the effects of multiples don't stack, it can't really be abused. To recap, the proposal is: Enemy ordnance passing within Xcm of a Firedagger is subjected to a continuous flak field and so counts as flying through blast markers." At the moment we think X will be 5cm, giving a 13cm diameter of effect.
Two proposals for the firedagger exist: As per sword, but with FP2@30cm for 30pts (cheap emphasising support role) and As per that, but with an additional FP2@15cm and hitting ordnance on a 4+ for 35pts (giving it a more active ordnance hunting role in addition to its passive defences). Both would have the flak field. My personal preference is for the first because it's cheap and simple, but whatever you guys think.
#5. Victory. There are several options for this: Firstly, to leave it as is. I don't think this is a serious proposal, as it barely outguns a Vanquisher it would be cheap, and there are already two cheap ships filling that role, whichever way the Invincible ends up being profiled. Secondly, give the prow L/F/R weaponry to turn it into a super-focus battleship that can compete with the Apocalypse at range. Thirdly, change the broadsides. Plaxor has suggested L4@60cm, WB5@60cm with WB9@60cm Dorsals, which is like an uprated Vanquisher. I've suggested L2@60cm, WB12@60cm, and L3 or WB9@60cm on top, which is visually different from any other BB but much the same role as Plaxors.
#6. Any other comments?