Argh this post was only supposed to be previewed. Still being modified.
Chaos:
Acheron: Increase lances to 60cm @+10 pts [Sigoroth, RCgothic, horizon, Plaxor]
Retaliator: 3LB per side [Admiral d Artagnan, Sigoroth, RCgothic, Plaxor, Horizon ]
Infidel: Give two turrets [Sigoroth, RCgothic, Horizon, Plaxor]
Iconoclast: Reduce by 5pts [RCgothic, Plaxor, BaronIveagh, Sigoroth, horizon,]
- The Cobra has equivalent firepower in torps alone, and doesn't have to get close to use it. The Iconoclast is a more vulnerable design.
Idolator: Revise with new Fraal tech [Plaxor, Sigoroth, RCgothic(as already price dropped to 40), Horizon], LFR lance [Horizon, RCgothic(as already price dropped to 40), Sigoroth]
GCs:
Add several upgrade options [Sigoroth, Plaxor (yes to anything non-dorsal), Commander, RCgothic, BaronIveagh, Horizon (no to anything but torps)]
My consent to this is only because I want to see the idea developed. I may also come down against dorsal weaponry completely.
IN:
Retribution: +10 points (to 355) [Sigoroth, RCgothic, BaronIveagh, horizon, Vaaish] - The new package is far more effective.
Apocalypse: Shooting at 60cm causes WB Offline critical to side that fires instead of Thrusters Critical [Sigoroth,RCgothic (I think the BM idea is better), Horizon] Dorsal WBs to FP9 [RCgothic(still not entirely convinced, but would prefer to FP6), Sigoroth, Commander, Horizon, Plaxor], Blast marker instead of critical [RCgothic,Sigoroth, Plaxor]
Exorcist: Increase LBs to 6, increase cost [Sigoroth, RCgothic, BaronIveagh, Commander, Admiral Artagnan, Horizon, Plaxor (no increase in LBs, others fine), Vaaish]
- If the Retaliator gets an increase, surely the Exorcist should too?
Avenger: Drop Cost (From 200pts or 220pts? A target price would be better)[Horizon, Vaaish, Sigoroth (in addition to wb increase), RCgothic(make more specific) ], FP 20 [Plaxor, Commander (45cm), Sigoroth, horizon, RCgothic], Increase Range to 45cm [BaronIveagh, Admiral_D_Artagnan, RCgothic, Sigoroth], +5 Speed [BaronIveagh (instead of 45cm), RCgothic, Sigoroth]
Overlord: add 60cm range option [Sigoroth, Plaxor, RCgothic(For +10pts), BaronIveagh]
- Who said anything about this beng free? (as in your latest post) Would expect it to cost +10pts.
Defiant:Use Horizon's Profile [RCgothic, Horizon, Plaxor, Sigoroth], Torps 4 [RCgothic, BaronIveagh, Sigoroth, Horizon]
- The space for Dorsal WBs is created by the LBs taking up half the internal space they would if they were a full S2 per side.
Firestorms: Lance to 45cm[BaronIveagh, RCgothic (With the cost reduction there's no need), Horizon, Sigoroth, Plaxor]
Confirmed Changes (by all 5 in solidarity):
Chaos:
Despoiler: Use modified stats (Horizons)
Devestation: Lance range @ 45cm
Styx: costs 260
Idolator: Cost 40
Retaliator Side wbs @45cm
IN:
Overlord: Side WBs fp12@45cm, Costs 225
Retribution: Side WBs fp18@45cm
Apocalypse: No penalty for firing lances up to 45cm. - I withdraw my support for this if the BM idea goes through.
Tyrant: 180 base cost
Endeavor/Endurance/Defiant: 6+ prow, maintains 90' turns
Dictactor: 210 points cost.
Oberon:Prow and Dorsal Weapons at 60cm, costs 355
Mars: Cost 260
Armageddon: Cost 235
Firestorms: Cost 35
Falchion 2 turrets