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Offline Mazila

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Book of Nemesis?
« on: November 25, 2010, 09:22:21 PM »
Guys I somehow got a fealing you are completely ignoring any references to this BoN or any ideas from it. Any reasons why? This thing has some very good ideas, ships and concepts.

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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2010, 09:24:13 PM »
Because it has Chaos Light Cruisers many people dismiss it without looking any further.

I appreciate the book.

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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2010, 09:48:57 PM »
1 cruiser for 1500 points, c'mon this is not a reason to dump the whole thing.

Anyway, whats wrong with chaos light cruisers? I mean chaos made a PK, surely they can make a small amount of light cruisers to counter imperium. As for me it's far less nonsence than a dark eldar BB!

What about inquisitor fleets, other variants etc?
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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2010, 12:13:30 AM »
I like Chaos light cruisers.  I've never understood the bias against them.
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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2010, 01:44:55 AM »
The only thing out of that book that i felt was worth while was the Diabolis Extremis. So much so that i built one and had the prow customized to match my grey knight strike cruisers.

Everything else in there is painful to look at.

Bias against Chaos CL? because of all the fleets in the game, of all the myriad lists..chaos needs them the least.

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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2010, 02:43:12 AM »
The only thing out of that book that i felt was worth while was the Diabolis Extremis. So much so that i built one and had the prow customized to match my grey knight strike cruisers.

Everything else in there is painful to look at.

Bias against Chaos CL? because of all the fleets in the game, of all the myriad lists..chaos needs them the least.

Are you joking?  The fast chaos battleship is awesome.
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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2010, 06:01:14 AM »
Eeehh I will be more convinced when i see an actual mini converted for it. It's rules are amusing, if complicated, but i would probably not take it.

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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2010, 12:56:36 PM »
What about inquisitor fleets, other variants etc?

It's like an early christmas to me when I discovered the other day that this is just what is happening.
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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2010, 01:08:01 PM »
It is not, this draft has nothing to do with a fleet in BoN

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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2010, 04:56:45 PM »
I don't recall claiming the draft to be a part BoN, apologies if interpreted as a thread-jack, going back to topic; BoN is not much to discuss as it is entirely unofficial, true it contains some goodies but as it is all unofficial it's the opponents consent that is the only hindrance of using anything in it. This is probably why it is seldom referred to in public forums.

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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2010, 05:05:22 PM »
The good thing about BFG, being a 'dead' game is that the playing communities are relatively small, and usually 'the opponent's consent' is not hard to get, especially in case of internally consistent rules-sets such as BoN.

It all comes down to: "does this make sense for us to use?" and not if it's official or not. Official or not official in this case is a poor-man's-argument. In case of a game the main argument should always be- are we having fun using this?

May I remind you that BoN was in fact published on the old specialist-games website, along with official GW rules. This is probably more then the rules developed under HA will get, if GW will maintain it's current policy towards SG.

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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2010, 06:06:12 PM »
So, Yegr, you think the GW will not upload any of the drafts and faq?

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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2010, 07:02:01 PM »
So, Yegr, you think the GW will not upload any of the drafts and faq?

That's a good question anymore.
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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2010, 08:01:14 PM »
So, Yegr, you think the GW will not upload any of the drafts and faq?

I think you are straying away from the topic of this discussion. Let's keep it on topic - shall we :)

Whatever I think, it won't have influence on the publishing (or lack thereof) of the current and future FAQs and such by GW. Furthermore since I don't need an "official" stamp to use something that makes sense to me (same goes for my nearest gaming community), such publication wouldn't matter. Lastly my answer to this question, was immanently contained in both my previous post, and your question.

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Re: Book of Nemesis?
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2010, 08:17:07 PM »
Chaos doesnt at all need a light cruiser, yes.  Thats why there is no problem if people want to include one in their fleet, for flavor, per 1500 points.
The arguments against are quite silly :)

Thats actually my favorite part of the book.  My lil' Heretic class is so cute. ^^