2010 torpedo clarification

[Zelnik]

Do we put the torpedo marker on a 2cmx2cm base as well? i hope so..

Also, when the strength gets over 6, should we add a second 2x2 base next to it, with a second die to determine the additional strength?

[horizon]

Ah, you noted the fact that stickied threads are tend to get overlooked?


Funny enough none of our battles haven't seen larger waves then 6.


Ok, since vessels with waves larger then 6 may split them in two seperate waves I would say that the single wave also consists of 2 markers/bases next to eachother. One dice per marker ofcourse.


First they had the str2 torp marker, then the 2cm x 2cm base, then the str3 torp marker.

I think the str3 and 2x2cm are almost the same.

[Zelnik]

I STRONGLY suggest that it is made 2x2, just to keep the game uniform and reduce the need for 'special counters.

It's very simple.  One 2x2 counter for every 6 torpedo's.  That way you get the benefit of area denial for the larger torpedo spreads. So..

Say you have a Desolator or a Retribution.  you would have two counters side by side, one with a 6, and the other with a 3. 

[Vaaish]

How I read things it was supposed to be one marker for ever 6 points of torpedo strength (this also works out well since a d6 can only represent... well, a s6 salvo and removes the issue of balancing multiple d6 on the same marker)

[Trasvi]

I assume one fighter would still remove an entire wave?

[Zelnik]

yup.

[RCgothic]

Ah, you noted the fact that stickied threads are tend to get overlooked?


Funny enough none of our battles haven't seen larger waves then 6.


Ok, since vessels with waves larger then 6 may split them in two seperate waves I would say that the single wave also consists of 2 markers/bases next to eachother. One dice per marker ofcourse.


First they had the str2 torp marker, then the 2cm x 2cm base, then the str3 torp marker.

I think the str3 and 2x2cm are almost the same.

Have we really just ruled that Torpedoes count as one marker (purposes of RO), but also as two?

[horizon]

I do not understand your question.

[Mazila]

guys, seriously, all this dice on a 2x2 marker is crap. Dice get accidently rolled away, look terrible and are not really that informative.

There were good markers in warp rift and they were size of str 4 torpedo salvo with a NUMBER printed on them.

I suggest we just use them. For a combined salvo simply use 2 markers if that salvo exceeds 9 torps alltogether.

[horizon]

guys, seriously, all this dice on a 2x2 marker is crap. Dice get accidently rolled away, look terrible and are not really that informative.

No, it works great:
* when strength of wave is reduced no need to pick up marker and place a new one. Thus marker stays in same position at all times. Just take the dice and adjust number.
* in all our battles with it (we used it before FAQ2010 at times) dices never have been rolled away.
* it is very informative.

we like it very much!!!

[Mazila]

We don't like it because it looks bad and has a limit of 6 only. The marker on the other hand can contain any number and looks better. Also, it solves problems with combined waves in a better way

[horizon]

It doesn't look bad imo.

Modelled torps would look good... yes..  lets make 2cm bases with a varied number of torps on it.

[Mazila]

you can't put a dice on a modeled torp - you have to put it near it which may lead to confusion.

Who said you can't model torps on a marker with a number? ))

[horizon]

I meant:
make markers with 1 torp miniature model on it.
make markers with 2 torp miniature models on it.
make markers with 3 torp miniature models on it.
make markers with 4 torp miniature models on it.
make markers with 6 torp miniature models on it.
make markers with 7 torp miniature models on it.
etc.

That looks best. Same problem as markers: adjusting, misplacement when a wave changes in size.

[Mazila]

if marker is standard, it's ok. But really, no one prevents us to put dice or make em with numbers or with models, i think the idea is just to make a standard marker and decide how it works when in larger waves. The only difference between my idea and idea to use 2x2 is the size of it (since i personaly think 2x2 is small) and a larger limit before combining it with another one. You can always put a dice on it anyway ))))

My point is that there is ALREADY a set of markers with numbers and i think Ray said that he wanted it to look as a str 4 torp salvo