So What's your Tournament Fleet?

[horizon]

So far I've seen not much of a fleet list. And Caine's and Tanith's replies say enough to me.


I changed the thread title: which fleet would you bring to a tournament?

[Zelnik]

Name the fleet you want Horizon.  You may even see me there

I can build you a good all around fleet that can beat that one with just about any fleet but nids (since they are now the only fleet i don't own aside from admech, who don't count)

[horizon]

Chaos
Space Marines
Imperial Navy
AdMech
Orks
Corsair Eldar
Craftworld Eldar
Dark Eldar

lol

[Zelnik]

I would probably bring my "Fleet of the Overlord" list, which i have posted in other threads.

Also my "Fleet of the Dominion" which is as follows

Apoc. LD 8 commander
Mars
Dictator
2 range upgraded tyrants
1 gothic

My favorite chaos fleet is always
Despoiler w ld 8 lord
4 slaughters
2 Acherons

my Orky fleet is mostly a joke but still can be fun if you can tolerate all the bleeping rolls

2 Hammer battlekrooza's w/ warbosses and looted torps
4 Terror ships
6 Brute ram ships

My space marines are pretty damn potent against tau, with all the thunderhawks and anti-ordnance bombardment cannons

Barge w master of the fleet
6 Nova's
5 Strike cruisers

My craftworld fleet will be a great choice, though i may be accused of being a jerk for playing eldar..

Hero ship, w Hero
Dragonship w/ batteries and launch bays
3 wraithships w pulsar lances and torps
6 shadowhunters

We differ greatly on our corsair list philosophy.  so i won't post mine

Dark eldar is always risky business..

3 torture cruisers w launch bays and dread archon
12 corsairs, 6 with impalers, 6 with dark lances

[horizon]

Hi Zelnik,
quickened
just going daftness here in my own humbled opinions:

Orks, the core is 4 Terror Kroozers. Like the Deathshane tactica.

Craftworld Eldar, yeah. If I was defending a Craftworld I would keep the Shadowhunters, when away I would drop them for another Wraithship. Plus some assault boats and farseer distributed among the ships.
A lolling tactic: squadron a Wraithship with the Flame to make an ablative armour.

Dark Eldar, scenario dependant ofcourse. Don't know on all the Impalers. But heck it.

Space Marines, if you want lances: why no Firestorm RSV to save some points, or at least present cheaper targets? I dunno, I killed so many Space Marines I have no idea on how to fear them.

Chaos, looks to me the hardest part is to keep the fleet somewhat together and guide the Slaughters to the enemy.

IN...dunno. Two Nova may harass some Tau. Or an Apocalypse on Lock On.

[Zelnik]

Because the Nova's are 10 cm faster then firestorms and their lances fire FLR, that's why!

Impalers? six impalers=LOTS OF FULL CRITS!

I take shadowhunters because they have proven themselves to me time and time again, without fail.  They are a great escort for intercepting ordnance so my two carriers can focus on launching bombers.  When the 2010 faq comes out, trust me, there will be a-boats


The chaos fleet works MUCH better then you think, with the four slaughters moving in quickly, supported by the long range acherons and the battleship.. trust me it works. only ever lost with it once ALso, the battleship has torps.

[lastspartacus]

Its always tough for me to lose out on 7 lances on the front.  But I agree that torps are really awesome choice.

Have you ever tried space marine crews for cant-fail torpedos and assault boats?  Ive only tried it on a desolator so far, but on a despoiler its bye bye battleship, might not even need wounding it. In theory anyway.

[Zelnik]

CSM's are just too expensive for my tastes, I barely ever even use marks.. I prefer to use chaos's superior shooty and speed to it's fullest instead of boarding.  with that fleet, i only need the assurance of the ld8 Chaos Lord on the carrier, the rest can have poor LD and still be effective.

[lastspartacus]

On an ordnance kitted Despoiler though...+3 leadership is really nice, not to mention 16 surefire hit and run attacks hitting 2-7 on the crit chart.  Hmm, you can't go beyond LD10 with bonuses, right?

[horizon]

Zelnik, well Firestorms move more inline with the rest of the fleet.

I agree on torps for the Despoiler.
I still think your Slaughters can be seperated by a canny opponent.

[Zelnik]

Well, yes. A Canny opponent can do LOTS of things. When two canny people meet, it's when the really interesting games emerge.  It's better to play the game then it is to say "your tactic sucks"

Prove to me my tactics such Horizon! come to the midwest and battle me!

[horizon]

I didn't say such

[Sigoroth]

On an ordnance kitted Despoiler though...+3 leadership is really nice, not to mention 16 surefire hit and run attacks hitting 2-7 on the crit chart.  Hmm, you can't go beyond LD10 with bonuses, right?

What do you mean 16 surefire H&R attacks? Assuming 0 hits from turrets against the a-boats the boarding torps still have to hit before making their H&R attacks. Against a 6+ prow this isn't terribly impressive. Against side armour it's still only 2 or 3 H&R attacks.

Or have they changed this rule recently?

[horizon]

Nuttin changed.

[lastspartacus]

Assuming 5+ armor, you are looking at a low average of 8 HnR criticals against a 5 turret battleship.
Meaning you can take a massive points investment out of the game in one low-damage salvo, potentially.
Pretty cool alternative.