If you could make an Imperial ship legal, which one(s) would it be?

[lastspartacus]

Are we talking about making the Dauntless pricier here, or limiting its inclusion?

[horizon]

How on earth did you reach that conclusion???

Dauntless stays the same.

We are talking to change the Endeavour-Endurance-Defiant.

[lastspartacus]

Ah, misunderstood.

[Admiral_d_Artagnan]

Probably because of my reply to Nate about his comment on the Dauntless and the greater scheme of things which I do interpret as Nate thinking about changing the Dauntless.

[Zelnik]

Changing the dauntless? what a strange idea, when most of the complaints focus around ships that suffer from even more player scrutiny (tyrant, overlord, endeavor family)

[Admiral_d_Artagnan]

Which is why I would object vehemently if he even puts forth an inkling of an idea that he wants to change the Dauntless.

[flybywire-E2C]

Which is why I would object vehemently if he even puts forth an inkling of an idea that he wants to change the Dauntless.

No, there is NO intent or discussion to replace the Dauntless in any way, shpe or form, period.   

Game on, everyone!   

- Nate

[Admiral_d_Artagnan]

Good. 

[Sigoroth]

Ok, got my computer out of storage and can now access my stored ship profiles. So for the IN here's one of the ships I had in mind:


Potentate Class Carrier                    220 pts
Hits - 8              Speed - 20cm   Turns - 45°
Armour - 6+/5+  Shields - 2       Turrets - 3

Armament     Speed/Range  Strength     Arc
P+S L. Bays     as craft           4            -
P+S Lances       30cm             2           L+R
Prow Torps        30cm            6             F

[KivArn]

Ok, got my computer out of storage and can now access my stored ship profiles. So for the IN here's one of the ships I had in mind:


Potentate Class Carrier                    220 pts
Hits - 8              Speed - 20cm   Turns - 45°
Armour - 6+/5+  Shields - 2       Turrets - 3

Armament     Speed/Range  Strength     Arc
P+S L. Bays     as craft           4            -
P+S Lances       30cm             2           L+R
Prow Torps        30cm            6             F

This would be my choice of ship to include. Plus maybe a BC variant akin to the mars

[Zhukov]

Just a reminder:

IF the Voss light cruisers points change due to the 6+ Prow (which I support), don't forget to change the Ad Mech document too!

-Zhukov

[lastspartacus]

Points increase of any kind is a very sad idea.  I still wont take the voss patterns with a free armored prow, but at least it gives them something over the dauntless.  10 point cost reduction and an armored prow, I would consider them worthy opponents to the dauntless.

[horizon]

A free 6+ prow would convince me to take them. I see oppurtunities.

[lastspartacus]

More survivability, in the front arc, against one weapon system, does not fully justify them to me.  How many points is armored prow worth on a light cruiser?  +20?  Because I currently see the voss patterns as 95-100 point ships.  +10 for the ordnance one.  Torp options would be nice, maybe.

[horizon]

The Defiant is poor. Even with 6+ prow.

Yeah, so Endeavour is 120, deduct 15 for the prow and it is 105. So 120 is good with 6+ prow.