If you could make a Chaos ship legal, which one(s) would it be?

[Plaxor]

Sig, i LIKE my long range support carrier...

Thats what styx are for

[Zelnik]

I always felt they served the same purpose, and work well together.

[RCgothic]

Yes, but the Devestation did it for significantly fewer points per weapon/launch bay/hull point/shield.

The Styx is so bad in comparison that in Flawed Ships it got its price slashed in addition to the devastation nerf (which was also needed due to undercost).

[Zelnik]

but the dev was not nerfed, and the styx is NOT a bad ship.

If you don't like it, don't use it.  I have several fleets that use the Styx, and they all do their job quite well.

[horizon]

Styx is great.
Devestation is little greater.
But Styx at 260pts makes it greater.
Yet Devestation still slightly edges out. In light of other cruisers 45cm lances would make more sense.

[Zelnik]

I have seen people make extremely effective fleets based solely around the styx. Risky, but extremely beaty fleets none the less. It REALLY is a matter of preference at this point.

[Sigoroth]

Sig, i LIKE my long range support carrier...

You mean "liked". 

[Sigoroth]

I have seen people make extremely effective fleets based solely around the styx. Risky, but extremely beaty fleets none the less. It REALLY is a matter of preference at this point.

Zel, you're confusing the issue. In a perfect world, with perfectly equal dice rolls and perfectly equally skilled opponents and a perfectly balanced scenario, someone playing Styx' will lose to someone playing long-ranged Devs. The Dev is just better value. The Styx is a good ship on the field, it is just outperformed by equal points of its alternative. Sure people can take them and win, but we're aiming for balance.

Since the Styx is underpowered for cost (cost reduction) and the Dev is overpowered for cost and makes the Acheron and Desolator (both balanced ships) look bad, the solution is lowered range. Now the Styx can be taken, the Acheron isn't so silly, the Desolator makes much more sense and the Dev is no longer overpowered.

[lastspartacus]

Acheron is missing weapons for party rooms.  Boo

But yes, As much as I absolutely love the whole 2 dev, 1 styx trio circling the battle, launching doom from afar, the best solution is 45cm weaponry.
No additional price hike though, this IS chaos, afterall.

[Zelnik]

meh.. i like it the way it is.. I am going to be depressingly indifferent at this stage.

I like the acheron as it is too, JUST so i can be a jerk.

[horizon]

The Acheron is great and should never be changed.
I agree with Zelnik.

[flybywire-E2C]

All,

Draft Updates have been uploaded for all four of the last projects the HA’s are working on.

- Battlefleet Bakka DRAFT v1.1
Lots of changes here- too many to list.

- Inquisition DRAFT v1.6
Minor tailoring of points and questions at this stage, slightly improved GK boarding value, improved graphics and formatting.

- Ork Clanz DRAFT v1.3
Fixed and adjusted a number of confusing points, improved graphics and formatting.

- Powers of Chaos DRAFT v3.2
Fixed and clarified a number of confusing points, made some changes to the Powers of Chaos, adjusted some point values, improved graphics and formatting.

[Zelnik]

Ooo The Conqueror is cheaper now... that will make a few of my buddies at the bunker happy.

The City of light was changed to The Scion of Prospero.. nice name change.

the leadership issue on the fancy ships has finally been resolved, thanks nate.

[lastspartacus]

Funny, my battleship's name is the Legacy of Prospero

[lastspartacus]

OK, read it.  Very nice, Nate.  Every issue I could think of that I had with the document are now pretty much cleared up.

Hmm.  Can the flagships take the chaos powers upgrades?