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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #285 on: June 01, 2010, 07:21:09 PM »
hmm,
On the holofield thing. I am not fond of that idea. This will further increase the strength of Chaos against Eldar. As it stands Chaos is the best opponent after Necrons vs Eldar due their long range weaponry across the fleet. Chaos is also noted for its good ordnance. Thus Chaos would gain another asset. The Imperial Navy on the other hand will never be an ordnance heavy fleet like Chaos, though the IN would benefit.
But in the end I think it is creating too many special rules with extra's.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #286 on: June 02, 2010, 02:35:04 PM »
I think one small way to fix eldar is to force them to take 1 cruiser per 500 points. That way they won't have that many those nasty escorts.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #287 on: June 02, 2010, 07:08:47 PM »
Then, when I would be an Eldar player using msm, would ask for a rule that opponents must take 1 or 2 escorts per capital ship.

Nah, that fix ain't gonna work. Craftworld Eldar are cruisers only.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #288 on: June 03, 2010, 11:54:35 AM »
Forget MSM, since it is not official and has nothing to do with FAQ.

Well craftworld Eldar do not bother me tbh, i am trying to fix mass nightshade and hemlock builds with my idea.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #289 on: June 03, 2010, 12:02:13 PM »
Forget MSM, since it is not official and has nothing to do with FAQ.
Really! AWESOME! WIN!

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msm = official
mms = unofficial

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Well craftworld Eldar do not bother me tbh, i am trying to fix mass nightshade and hemlock builds with my idea.
Fix = both at least + 10 points in cost.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #290 on: June 03, 2010, 01:11:29 PM »
UPS, misread  ;D

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #291 on: June 03, 2010, 08:30:39 PM »
with my proposed changed for eldar holofield, most fleets will be a bit better against eldar, and the order of their competitiveness would not change.
i see ac being sent in to get a better look at the target, and make a hull straffling attack.

regarding proposed change for necron against torpedoes, it amuses me some that the strongest fleet torpedo wise might be orks (upward of a S6 salvo from an escort? whoa!) who might have been designed by the old ones to fight the necrons. The other fleet that would do well would be tau, who might have been modified by eldars. ha ha. btw, eldar would also do better against necron.

so while chaos might do better against eldar, they won't do much better against necrons.

while you can both change the saves for holofield and living hull saves, i think accross the board changes might be too much. more importantly, imo specific chinks/angles of weakness make a fleet more interesting to field, and to fight against.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #292 on: June 09, 2010, 10:23:24 AM »
Hi Fracas,

Holofields: We won't be changing the holofield mechanic, (I would like to, but now is not the time).
If you got rid of Eldar's defence against AC this would greatly tip the scales when tailoring a fleet to kill Eldar. AC are already good against eldar anyway. All those blast markers slowing them down in their 'run away phase' and having the ability to actually reach them in an asteroid field.

Reactive Armour: Once again this isn't really the time. Even still it's not fluff accurate, and this is a pretty weird vulnerability. Everyone excluding SM's, Chaos, Nids... oh and Necrons would benefit from this in a meaningful way. Orks not so much either as they can't combine torps and have poor leadership. Also Necrons can go crazy when massing turrets (granted this will be limited in the new FAQ), so torps (unless they have stealth) will be hard pressed to get past thier defences.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #293 on: June 09, 2010, 10:59:59 AM »
Ray,
thanks for the considerations.

one more thing. given all the discussions and work so far, would the HA consider going further and put out BFG 2.0? an all in one bound book would be awesome for all of us, as well as expand the number of us once the 2.0 book is on store shelves.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #294 on: June 09, 2010, 11:12:09 AM »
If we did put out a BFG 2.0 I would imagine it would be as an online resource only. (It could include every fleet though..  :)) We would need the go ahead from GW though.... I'm not hopefull, but fingers crossed.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #295 on: June 09, 2010, 11:14:03 AM »
If it ever happens make seperate pdf's for every fleet. This will be easier to manage in case of updates and bandwith when downloading.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #296 on: June 09, 2010, 11:18:59 AM »
Indeed, in a similar fashion to how the rulebooks are fragmented at present, but keeping the page numbers as if they were one book.
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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #297 on: June 09, 2010, 11:27:44 AM »
Yeah, but Ships of the Gothic Sector split up and all Chaos vessels (from Armada & rulebook) in one pdf.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #298 on: June 09, 2010, 01:05:30 PM »
If there was a BFG 2.0 I don't believe there would be a need to have multiple Chaos, Imperial or Ork lists if done correctly.

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Re: BFG FAQ 2010 Fleet Specific Questions
« Reply #299 on: June 09, 2010, 08:47:05 PM »
pdf would be awesome if there was an option for all in one.