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Offline Admiral_d_Artagnan

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Re: Project Vanguard, or "How to use your grandmother's teeth"
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2010, 06:38:03 AM »
Meh. Too expensive and complicated. Sorry.

Simplest fix:

Overlord - FP12@45cm batteries. Same cost. Everyone and their resident Kommissar would take it.

Retribution - FP15/16@60cm batteries for 350 maybe 355 points. Again everyone and their resident Kommissar would take it.

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Re: Project Vanguard, or "How to use your grandmother's teeth"
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2010, 04:46:02 AM »
Any word on these guys?  I love the Retribution in concept, but it does feel pretty underpowered for a 'slugger' type ship, doesn't seem to live up to its roll, for 20 more points than the great Emperor too.  Tyrant and Overlord both to me need some lovin too.
Didn't someone take both the Imp and Chaos ships and make points increases to em to upgrade em?
I'd love to see some simple answer besides giving a targeting matrix or something fancy like that.

Offline horizon

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Re: Project Vanguard, or "How to use your grandmother's teeth"
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2010, 06:56:40 AM »
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Retribution is 345
Emperor is 365
per rulebook v15 (for sale / download at GW site).

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Re: Project Vanguard, or "How to use your grandmother's teeth"
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2010, 01:50:50 PM »
Huh, how about that. In my version of the book, its switched.  Either way, it'd be nice if an Imperial weapon battery based battleship could throw out more volume of battery strength than a cruiser, range be damned :)

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Re: Project Vanguard, or "How to use your grandmother's teeth"
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2010, 06:05:25 PM »
Ypu have the old book. :)

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Re: Project Vanguard, or "How to use your grandmother's teeth"
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2010, 07:02:41 PM »
Are the changes addressed in the errata?  Does the new errata cover everything in the 07 errata or do i need to look that up too?
Do I just need to pore over the points costs in the pdf?

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Re: Project Vanguard, or "How to use your grandmother's teeth"
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2010, 07:22:36 PM »
Well, current rulebook has Ret at 345 and Emp @ 365 but again swapped in fleet list. The Faq 2007 and 2010 clarified it should be 345 Ret and 365 Emp in any list.

The faq2010 changes faq2007 things (eg fighter bombers) and adds new things (torps, overlapping...)