Chaos army background

[Shapeshifter878]

I've been thinking about getting an old Chaos army book to get some background information for the units in my WM Chaos army. The problem is I'm a bit lost when it comes to Warhammer. Which book would be best to get in this case? I'm not interested in the rules, so any edition is fine.

[David Wasilewski]

I'd just look on e bay for old Warhammer army books and buy whatever takes your fancy, I doubt they're very expensive. I like the old "Storm of Chaos" supplement myself.

Dave

[jchaos79]

warmaster were released in 99-2000.

I found 4th edition very pleasant (just my opinion), but I do not have all the supplements and either do not have a lot of editions. I am far to be an expert in GW world.

[Stormwind]

The vast majority of fan pandering stuff seems to cater on Khorne and Nurgle, the most prosaic and adolescent of the Chaos Gods.

The Warmaster rulebook has such a broad, mutable vision of the Old World that it makes you think you can do all sorts of things.  I decided that I wanted to have a Tzeentch themed army, and instead of having "evil" basing would instead look arid.

The idea for mine is it's a legion lost in the shifting desert sands following an insane quest for some artefact or other and occasionally coalesces to fight people when the Winds of Magic blow in its favour.

[jchaos79]

The idea for mine is it's a legion lost in the shifting desert sands following an insane quest for some artefact or other and occasionally coalesces to fight people when the Winds of Magic blow in its favour.

 

[Geep]

I think the book from the old Realm of Chaos box set was the best- back when Chaos was a combined army.

For more general/older background there's also the two Realm of Chaos Books: The Lost and the Damned and Slaves to Darkness. I also liked an old book set the once sold, though I've forgotten the names- 1 book for each Chaos God. Later they were joined into a single volume, with an extra 'undivided' chapter added.
All of the books in this last paragraph used to be quite expensive, though I haven't looked at their prices in a while now.

Not my auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Realm-of-Chaos-Warhammer-Supplement-by-Games-Workshop-OOP-/400578305485

I may be able to give you much cheaper digital versions of various books- best to PM me if that possibility interests you.

[Shapeshifter878]

Thanks for the input. After doing a search on eBay I've found these:

Warriors of Chaos
Hordes of Chaos
Champions of Chaos

All army books apparantly. Do they differ content-wise or is it just a change of name between the editions?

[Geep]

There's some differences in content. As a general rule, ~4th to ~6th editions are probably best. Earlier books were smaller and often not full fleshed out, and later editions tend to suffer from reduced writing quality and/or volume.
3rd ed books may be ok- I've mostly forgotten them, so can't be sure.

[Shapeshifter878]

I have now received the army book that I ordered, Hordes of Chaos, from 6th edition(2002) and I'm curious about two things.

Dragon Ogres, Trolls, Ogres and Harpies are not in the book. Why is that?

Some of the sample armies have both demons and human units in the same army. Can you have that in Warmaster?

[Lex]

I have now received the army book that I ordered, Hordes of Chaos, from 6th edition(2002) and I'm curious about two things.

Dragon Ogres, Trolls, Ogres and Harpies are not in the book. Why is that?

Some of the sample armies have both demons and human units in the same army. Can you have that in Warmaster?

Warmaster was based of the "old" Chaos ethos as seen by Rick and Jervis....

It is fairly easy to merge human and deamonic chaos using proxy.

[Aldhick]

iirc the core 6 wm armies (including chaos) were designed in the time of ending 5th ed. right?

[Geep]

If I remember rightly, 6th ed Chaos could have joined armies, but all three factions had their own books. So Dragon Ogres, Harpies and Trolls were probably in the Beasts book, which meant they could show up in normal mortal armies. Ogres may have been dropped from Chaos by that point.

I think the system was something along the lines of: Every Chaos book has units in core, special and rare. You're limited by how many of each type you can take. The primary book you're using fills the relevant slots as normal, but you can take any units from the allied 2 books by moving the slot 'up' a level.
eg. A Chaos Warrior army can take core daemon units, but they take up a special slot, and special daemons, but they take a rare slot. You can't take rare daemons.