Kroot Warsphere with 16HP

[TheBossman40k]

Hey everyone,

Not that I'll get the chance to buy a BFG Tau fleet in my life ever again, but I was just wondering what you'd use to represent the 16HP Kroot hamsterball listed in the 2010 compendium Tau list. Maybe the model could be extended, or maybe a conversion of sorts? The Rouge Trader book states the post Damocles Gulf crusade spheres to be upwards of an Imperial Battleship in size at 9km, and the model does not represent that. And none of that the model looks silly mumbo-jumbo the warsphere is awesome.

Thanks in advance!

[horizon]

In BFG 1cm = 1km.
A Lunar cruiser is either 3km long (pre RT lore) or 5km (post RT lore).

But, I dunno, make something that looks like a sphere and it'll be accepted.

[Islacrusez]

In BFG 1cm = 1km.

I'd like to know where that particular figure comes from, as it doesn't appear to match any figure I've ever heard from or measured.

[horizon]

In BFG 1cm = 1km.

I'd like to know where that particular figure comes from, as it doesn't appear to match any figure I've ever heard from or measured.

Has always been the case. And it does work out in gameplay and "mechanics".

It was a statement by Andy Chambers dating as far as back as BFG started, here a 2002 reference:
http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/40k-earth-vs-core-prime.30725/

2008:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?138586-Two-Questions

Old Andy Chambers stuff:
http://www.redstargames.net/retrospektiv.html

Oh... and a go go go :
http://www.wolfedengames.com/battlefleetgothic/scale.htm

The quote itself by the main man:

Scale in Battlefleet Gothic
by Andy Chambers

I'm not sure if I've talked about scale before but here goes anyway. BFG works around an approximate scale of 1cm=1000KM for the planets and other tabletop features. Obviously this means the ship models are massively out of scale, an Imperial cruiser is NOT 9000KM+ long! The scale is basically there as a rule of thumb and I didn't worry about it too much when it came down to setting weapon ranges, ship speeds and so on. These were all done to create the right impression of distance on the tabletop. For example 60cm 'feels' like a long way and 30cm doesn't, the weapon ranges aren't defined by some pseudo-science calaculation of the energy dissipation rate of lasers (fairly obviously ) but to create an interaction between the (massively out of scale) models on the tabletop.

The more interesting question is perhaps how long is a turn, and that one I don't know the answer too - I'd guess somewhere between 15 minutes and an hour (quite likely telescoping so that at long range a turn is an hour but by the time you're within 15 cm its 15 minutes). This would make an attack craft capable of moving 30cm per ordnance phase capable of doing approximately 30-120,000 km/h. I've got no idea if this is realistic for starfighter speeds, or unfeasibly fast, incredibly slow or what , perhaps someone on the list could enlighten us all on this front (don't just tell us what it says it the Star Wars technical manual though!).

[Islacrusez]

1cm = 1,000 km *cough cough*

And that's for tabletop features, as stated in the quotes. I believe my calculations for ship scale put that in the 1:50,000 range; though this may well be skewed by two different lengths being quoted for the same ships. Think my calculations were based off Cobra-class destroyers at ~32mm and a real-world size of ~1.5km. Don't think I ever checked if the scale is consistent, as I'd not needed to at the time.

[horizon]

  I missed a couple of zeroes. Ofcourse I meant 1000km.

And, yes, that is tabletop, which applies to the question most I think.

[Islacrusez]

I missed a couple of zeroes. Ofcourse I meant 1000km.

And, yes, that is tabletop, which applies to the question most I think.

Just a couple digits out

And I'm under the impression that the Kroot Hamsterball of War is a ship, not a space feature, and the scale for ship is established to be different (even noted in the source you cite).

[fracas]

Why not use the standard kroot sphere for 16 hp and don't build it fully for when it is less than 16?
Pin the pieces.

[Seahawk]

Tennis ball onna stick.