Well, we all know the Warp is a special land of magic and fairies... where ships simply come into being.On a more serious note, who really cares if there is a chaos cl. It would be crap compared to the slaughter, and people who want them so desperately can quit whining.
Because fluff says about two centuries have elapsed in the Eye, approx, while ten thousand years have rolled by in the materium. Which means that the Planet Killer was actually built much more swiftly then most battleships.
Quote from: BaronIveagh on February 13, 2011, 02:02:38 AMBecause fluff says about two centuries have elapsed in the Eye, approx, while ten thousand years have rolled by in the materium. Which means that the Planet Killer was actually built much more swiftly then most battleships.Is there a problem with a battleship being built faster than most battleships? You have some pretty unforgivable and ruthless masters in the Eye who would accept no reason for any delays and would most likely just kill the messenger as well as those responsible for the delay and whose minions would push the slaves until their hands are bare to the bones already, literally and figuratively and still demand more performance out of the slaves and get it.You have traitor AM which are still in their prime and still have the knowledge to build ships efficiently and chaos beings and powers which can aid them further. The AM also probably have their equipment to build the ships that is better technology wise than the ones the non-traitor AMs have. I'm not going to be surprised if the PK is built way before record time.
That wasn't the point: It was that you can't build one of the largest, most powerful ships ever in record time for a ship of it's class AND simultaneously roll out dozens of cruisers you had to reverse engineer. While chaos is badassed,it's not without limits. Otherwise it would have won already.
And why not? Do you know the construction details inside the Eye? 2 centuries is a lot of years assuming that the time passed in the Eye is true. Aside from which, while I think some ships might have been reverse engineered, who's to say some of the actual engineers involved in the Scartix Coil engine and Acheron class development did not turn traitor? At which point, reverse engineering need not be done because they would have firsthand knowledge. You can have many fluff reasons to justify how one can roll out the PK as well as a couple of Acherons and Slaughters.
Again, because resources are not available. Chaos marines complain that they don't have access to basic supplies and equipment maintenance. A great deal of the raiding that goes on is to seize basic materials. To make a comparison: if you can't keep up with demand for bullets and small arms, you're not going to have the resources necessary for large scale warship construction. Squeezing out one PK and two or three of each of the other classes is possible, but frankly it's a better use of resources to maintain and upgun the (if the description of Horus' fleet in some of the HH books is correct) hundreds of CL's they would have had from the Great Crusade, never mind the ones that have joined since.
Quote from: BaronIveagh on February 14, 2011, 07:19:04 PMAgain, because resources are not available. Chaos marines complain that they don't have access to basic supplies and equipment maintenance. A great deal of the raiding that goes on is to seize basic materials. To make a comparison: if you can't keep up with demand for bullets and small arms, you're not going to have the resources necessary for large scale warship construction. Squeezing out one PK and two or three of each of the other classes is possible, but frankly it's a better use of resources to maintain and upgun the (if the description of Horus' fleet in some of the HH books is correct) hundreds of CL's they would have had from the Great Crusade, never mind the ones that have joined since. But the fact is, Acherons, note the "s", have been built as well as the PK. If the PK can be built and that one according to you which I agree with, eats up a lot of resource, that means they do have the resources. I've never seen much fluff that Chaos does not have access to basic supplies and equipment maintenance. They've had 13 Black Crusades which I assume would eat up a lot of material per Crusade. While they have not really won, that's a lot of Crusades in which they have spent bullets and small arms.
Um, does all this about Slaughters and Scartix coils and "how come I can't have Chaos CL's?" mean the Chaos list is good to go?