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Should we adopt the rules in the original post in BFG:R?

Yes, make it official.
5 (71.4%)
No, needs more work.
2 (28.6%)

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Voting closed: June 03, 2013, 11:00:55 PM

Author Topic: BFG:R Vote 69: Inquisition  (Read 2530 times)

Offline afterimagedan

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BFG:R Vote 69: Inquisition
« on: May 30, 2013, 11:00:55 PM »
Ld 9 Inquisitor 50pts
Ld10 Inquisitor Lord 100pts
-Inquisitor Lords belong to an Ordo. Choose one of the three Ordos that the Inquisitor Lord belongs to an apply the special rules that Ordo provides.
-You must take at least one Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord in place of or in addition to an Imperial Navy, Space Marine, or Adeptus Mechanicus admiral.
-Any Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord may be put on any capital ship of your choice.
-Each Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord may purchase 0-2 rerolls for 25pts each.

Storm Trooper Strike Force - May take one per Inquisitor in your fleet and they may be on any capital ship that foes not have Space Marines on board. A ship with this upgrade may roll twice and pick the highest result in boarding actions. +10pts

Blackship
-no boarding or H&R bonuses anymore but now comes with a reroll.
-If it dies, the killer gets an extra 200vps. If the Blackship survives uncrippled and not disengaged, it give the Inquisitor player 200vps.

Grey Knight Battle Barge needs its own page

Inquisitorial Cruiser
-250pts
-must purchase an Ordo upgrade for 25pts if an Inquisitor Lord is not on board.
-1 Inquisitorial Cruiser pre 3 cruisers. Takes the spot of a Grand Cruiser for fleets that use Grand Cruisers.

Ordo Heretius
-+2 to boarding, +1 to H&Rs and -1 to H&Rs against them
-Canoness Superior (function as Secondary Commanders like in the IN fleet)
-Sisters of Battle give the ship +1 to Boarding. +5 pts
-Celestions (function as Honor Guard without the SM +1) which may be taken on any ship with an Inquisitor or Canoness Superior. +5pts.
-Any Battleship or Inquisitorial Cruiser with an Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor Lord on it is considered to be an Exterminator ship or is given the Transport quality, depending on the relevant scenario.

Ordo Malleus
-+2 to boarding, +1 to H&Rs and -1 to H&Rs against them
-Brother-Captain (function as Secondary Commanders like in the IN fleet)
-Grey Knight Purifiers (function as SM Honor Guard) on any ship with a Brother-Captain or an Inquisitor on it.
-Grey Knight Paladins (function as SM Terminators) on any ship with an Inquisitor Lord on it.
-Ordo Malleus ships are immune to the effects of Marks of Chaos and Daemonships.
-A ship led by an Ordo Malleus Inquisitor Lord may take 0-1 Grey Knights Battle Barge and Grey Knights Strike Cruisers instead of regular Strike Cruisers.

Ordo Xenos
-+2 to boarding, +1 to H&Rs and -1 to H&Rs against them
-Watch Captain (secondary commander exactly like they are in the IN list)
-Deathwatch Kill-team (counts as Honor Guard) may be taken on any capital ship. Ships with Kill-teams always get a +1 to H&Rs caused by their vessel and vessel's ordnance, even when not attacking from an Inquisitor Lord's vessel. +15pts
-Deathwatch First Company (counts as Terminators) may be taken on any vessel with an Inquisitor Lord.

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Re: BFG:R Vote 69: Inquisition
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2013, 07:09:51 PM »
These ordo rules just seem like glorified SM rules to me. Inquisitors should not get re-rolls. Not entirely enamoured with the idea of an Inquisitor fleet. Inquisitors should be a quirky (at most) upgrade to a particular ship. Black ships are glorified transports, not ships of battle. The inclusion of Inquisitorial ships (such as Grey Knights, etc) should be a one-off, not a fleet wide thing.

SoB could give +1 to boarding, but I'd leave it at that, forget the H&R bonus. GKs are, of course, just SMs. Have them ignore Ld penalties when fighting against Chaos. That's about it. Storm Troopers are insignificant, they should give no bonus.

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Re: BFG:R Vote 69: Inquisition
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2013, 07:28:39 PM »
Hey Sig,
They are not getting a fleet of their own. They can be added to an imperial or marine fleet.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 09:09:39 PM by horizon »

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Re: BFG:R Vote 69: Inquisition
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2013, 08:34:43 PM »
Hey Sig,
They ate not getting a fleet of their own. They can be added to an imperial or marine fleet.

Was there suppossed to be a way to just play GK if someone wanted too? I thought I remembered that being part of the discussion (and the only way to play a pure INQ fleet)
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Re: BFG:R Vote 69: Inquisition
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 09:12:04 PM »
Yeah, the 2010 list is indeed a fleet on its own but we (?) / ones who talked about it decided to remove an own Inquisitor fleet list because it just did not fit with what the inquisition is.

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Re: BFG:R Vote 69: Inquisition
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2013, 09:19:14 PM »
Yeah, the 2010 list is indeed a fleet on its own but we (?) / ones who talked about it decided to remove an own Inquisitor fleet list because it just did not fit with what the inquisition is.

I agree with that. I also didn't want to stop a pure Grey Knight fleet though, because they do operate at times like a normal SM chapter AND if someone actually bought that many GK SC, it would suck not to have a list. BUT if loosing that option is the price of make INQ ships add on to fleets only I am okay with that and someone could always just play pure GK for fun without a fleet list.

We could put a pure GK fleet list in ASC 2.0 and just leave the BFG:R INQ list as upgrades for IN, Ad Mech and SM
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Re: BFG:R Vote 69: Inquisition
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2013, 11:22:47 PM »
I dont see the problem. The Ordo Malleus allows you to take a grey Knight fleet. Use a SMfeet and swap with GKSCs and a GK battle barge.

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Re: BFG:R Vote 69: Inquisition
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 04:59:54 AM »
Yup, build a Marine fleet, paint it as Grey Knights, take an Inquisitor as commander, add the correct Ordos.