Dauntlesses - Lance or Missile

[afterimagedan]

That's a pretty nice collection there! I would recommend 2 more cruisers someday (I recommend line cruisers with torpedoes, though this is my bias coming out). Did you magnetize any of them? I highly recommend that too. It's cheap and easy! It's hard to advise you what to do because I favor a specific style of IN playing that sort of holds me back from ever really using an Emperor (unless I am trying something new, on occasion). Your Swords and Firestorms can make a nice "second punch" squadron that can hang back behind the big boys but still dish out tons of damage.  Same with the Cobras, but seem to me more a  refused flank guard.  I could consider swapping the Tyrant to a Dominator (though it pains me to say this because I love Tyrants...) so you have ore than 1 nova cannon.  1 Nova cannon won't cause much panic in the opposing player. 2, however, will. This will match with your Emperor's long range.

[ElectricPaladin]

Of course, now I need to ask - are endeavors any good, or am I shooting my future theoretical admech fleet in the foot with that choice?

[ElectricPaladin]

That's a pretty nice collection there!

Thanks. I have a problem. :-/.

I can't bring myself to magnetize them. Ships have so much... identity, you know? The Epsilon Eridani is a mars class battlecruiser. It's what she is! I can't imagine them dry-docking her to swap out those enormous banks if guns... it doesn't seem right. Not like swapping a predator's turret or a crisis suit's gun.

[AndrewChristlieb]

Endurance (Andrew means Endeavour) is nice, with plasma boosted batteries and the prow lance swap I could see a pair of these (or one and a Lunar maybe?) being particularly nasty

[ElectricPaladin]

It also seems that endurance is to firestorms what dauntless is to cobras. And that's a combo that appeals. Two torpedo dauntlesses and a trio of cobras? That's 18 torpedoes and strength 11 broadsides. Two endurances and a trio of firestorms? That's strength 7 lances, strength 10 guns... Wow.

So I got a second dauntless kit. I'll build my admech kit - and my second admech kit, too - as an endourance.

[horizon]

In the AdMech list I prefer the Endeavour to the Endurance.
a) lances is not an issue in the AdMech list, the Endeavour even brings one.
b) the weapon batteries can be improved with range, so the Endeavour gets a healthy good broadside at 45cm already,

[AndrewChristlieb]

Crud, i always get those two confused >: I intended my comment to be for which ever one comes with broadside batteries instead of lances .

[horizon]

Heh, can happen.

[ElectricPaladin]

Crud, i always get those two confused >: I intended my comment to be for which ever one comes with broadside batteries instead of lances .

I went and built the lance one on your say-so! D:

Actually, I think I'm ok with that. You may get a lot of lances in the admech fleet, it's true, but in an Imperial fleet, I think the lance one is pretty good. You can use it as a super-escort for firestorms and unload a ton of lances into things. Dauntless and cobras, endurance and firestorms. It's a match made in Holy Terra, right?

Right?

Right?

. Anyway, unless someone tells me that the endurance is a categorically bad choice for some reason, I'm ok with it. I'm sure I'll end up with another admech light kit at some point and I can make that one an endeavor.

[AndrewChristlieb]

I dont think you will be disappointed with it really, assuming you take the prow lance over the two torps your going to be looking at basically the same lance firepower as a Dauntless but with a better fire arc. Mix it up with a small group of Nova frigates and your would have quite the prickly pear there. The only realy benefit to the gun battery version is that it can get the 45cm range on its guns.

[ElectricPaladin]

Where are there rules for endurances getting more prow lances? I don't see those in Armada...

[horizon]

In the admech rules they can add 1 dorsal lance, but that means dropping the two torpedoes.

[ElectricPaladin]

And I can do that when using it as an imperium ship because under 2010 FAQ rules I can take admech allies. Right?

[horizon]

If you follow the guidelines and reserve rules: yes you can.

[ElectricPaladin]

Now I'm going to add some red to my firestorms and say that the captains have been inducted into the cult mechanicum as lay priests! That way I can team them up with my endurance as Imperial ships or use them in a Mechanicus fleet!