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Offline Talos

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Re: Tactical, List Composition, and Collection Lessons from my First Real Game
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2013, 10:34:13 PM »
Damn your awesome american prices....our dollar is stronger and yet the prices are still like 20% higher here in canada :'(

Truth be told, there is some pretty common rules of thumb for dauntlesses, and they are as such.

-Lance Dauntless is best in larger game, where it can operate at high efficiency when crippled (all it loses are a bit of speed and a bit of weaponry, but due to rounding up rule not much) and doesn't require SO to be effective

-It does work really well with firestorms as a powerful lance pack that can get where it is needed.

-The torpedo dauntless is better in smaller games, where its superior frontal armament can get strong ordnance to where it can do the most harm and SO are not at a premium

-All light cruisers work best with other vessels, but not necessarily in pairs like other cruisers. As has been mentioned, lance dauntless es work well with both firestorms and each other, whereas torpedo ones work well with cobras/falchions. The Voss pattern light cruisers (endurance etc...) work well with each other but also with full cruisers, where they double as maneuverable rear guard and additional punch without full cruiser price. Such as an endeavour with a pair of lunars, where it can intercept enemy torpedoes with its own weaker ones and lend enough battery to the broadside to let the lunars really shine. It can also soak up shots for them or hide behind them as the situation demands.

Kind of an unnecessary rant, but hopefully this will help with your decision.

Also, strike cruisers are underwhelming without the powerful SM escorts and battleships to fight alongside them. They just do not function that well with regular IN vessels.

Offline ElectricPaladin

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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2013, 10:36:52 PM »
It sounds increasingly like the lance dauntless & cobras is my best choice. Btw, what counts as a "larger" game in your mind?

Offline Talos

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Re: Tactical, List Composition, and Collection Lessons from my First Real Game
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2013, 11:20:46 PM »
Anything above 1250pts is a larger game to me, so typically 1500pts, or 2000pts.

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Re: Tactical, List Composition, and Collection Lessons from my First Real Game
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2013, 11:54:32 PM »
1500 is the standard around these parts. Anything above 1500 its "larger"

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Re: Tactical, List Composition, and Collection Lessons from my First Real Game
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2013, 11:58:00 PM »
Well, if you divide it into three categories, less than 1000pts is small, up to 1500pts or so is average and larger than that is large. Your such a nitpicker Dan :D ;)

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Re: Tactical, List Composition, and Collection Lessons from my First Real Game
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2013, 12:10:17 AM »
HECK YES I'M A NITPICKER. IT'S MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY  ;D

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Re: Tactical, List Composition, and Collection Lessons from my First Real Game
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2013, 01:05:15 AM »
I like Tyrants for pretty much your same line of thought there. They pair better with an Armageddon than a Gothic tho (BFG-R excluded). There is nothing more frustrating when playing IN than having everything 33cm away EVERY TIME >:(. Ok bit of an overreaction maybe but I have never been disappointed for having extra range and Ive never really noticed the difference between 10 and 12 (or really 8 and 12 either *Overlord).

1500 is average, less is less more is more.

Check Ebay!!! I picked up 7 Daunts, 3 Firestorms, and 6 Cobras for about 60 bucks a few months back by keeping my eye on there, just dont ever pay more 75% of retail.
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Offline ElectricPaladin

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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2013, 07:46:04 PM »
So, actually I have $70!!! Picking up sub periods - one of the perks of my job. I guess I'll be getting two dauntlesses and a pack of cobras and some tokens.

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Re: Tactical, List Composition, and Collection Lessons from my First Real Game
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2013, 07:51:38 PM »
Yes, Ebay and forums are your friends.

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Re: Tactical, List Composition, and Collection Lessons from my First Real Game
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2013, 01:54:10 AM »
I also like the tyrants for the upgraded batteries. useful if you face holofield
btw
2 lunars are more versatile: average against holofield and armor 6
1 dominator & 1 gothic: dominator good against holofield, less so against armor 6; gothic good against armor 6 but much less useful against holofield
total power is the same but they will play different ... which is good

dictators imo is better than mars as an attack carrier.

and imo, nova cannon are terror weapons more so than an reliable killer