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Warmaster => [WM] Warmaster Fantasy Discussion => [WM] Alternate settings and proxy armies => Topic started by: andys on February 04, 2014, 06:56:52 PM

Title: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: andys on February 04, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
Not a massive amount of choice but as individual units tend to cost a lot of points, I guess you don't need that many units to make an army!

Bull Ogres:
Evil giants from Kallistra's Accessory range
http://www.kallistra.co.uk/index.php?page=19#anchor1accesf
15mm Orcs from Miriliton
http://www.mirliton.it/index.php?cName=fantasy-15-mm-orks
Armoured Greater Orcs from Magister Militum
http://www.magistermilitum.com/product.asp?numRecordPosition=6&P_ID=857&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=159

Leadbelchers:
None found.

Ironguts:
None found.

Yhetees:
Trolls from Kallistra's Orc range
http://www.kallistra.co.uk/index.php?page=19#anchor1accesf
15mm Snow Trolls from Copplestone
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=FM
At 24mm tall these are large figures. On the other hand you get 3 in a pack, so one figure per base and you've got a full unit.
15mm Hill Trolls from Magister Militum, 4 to a pack
http://www.magistermilitum.com/product.asp?numRecordPosition=1&P_ID=9960&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=1492

Gnoblars:
None found.

Rhinox Riders:
Eureka do Woolly Rhinos (6 in a pack)which look good but you'd need to source riders
http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_100_101&products_id=10835

Gorgers:
None found.

Slave Giant:
Giant with mace from Ironwind
http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=8016
Magog the Hill Giant from Copplestone
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=FM
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Stormwind on February 04, 2014, 07:27:39 PM
I was thinking that perhaps some 15mm ghouls or apes of some kind might work for Gorgers.

Leadbelchers:
http://www.freewebstore.org/Abomination/Ogre_Cannoneers/p1322681_9383023.aspx

The more of us buy them, the more likely E&C is to make some more! =-)

EDIT:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Goblin-Captain-New-The-Hobbit-LOTR-/400557636693?pt=AU_Miniatures&hash=item5d43187c55

I am of the opinion that the more hunched / small Hobit goblin town warriors in plastic would make excellent Gorgers.  They are misshapen with large eyes and big teeth and designed to be painted in pallid colours.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Dave on February 04, 2014, 08:01:44 PM
Not exactly proxies, but here's what I have squirreled away for this army:

Bull Ogres - regular WM Ogres
Leadbelchers - the more lightly armored WM Ogres with a cannon I converted to be held by them (need to cast it up)
Ironguts - the more heavily armored WM Ogres with O&G chariot wheels as shields
Yhetees - WM Trolls (same stats, only the special rules are different)
Gnoblars - lots (and lots...) of O&G Chariot crew
Rhinox Riders - these (http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/myst5.jpg) with some Ironguts on top
Gorgers - BoFA Hill Trolls
Slave Giant - O&G Giant, alternatively this (http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/images/fm18magoghillgiant.jpg)

http://wm-selector.appspot.com/army_selector.html?list=ogrekingdoms&label=&print=&0=4&1=2&2=2&3=2&4=8&5=2&6=2&7=2&8=1&8-0=1&9=2&10=2
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Stormwind on February 04, 2014, 08:28:10 PM
In an older thread here, the Malifaux Wendigo was suggested as a great Yhetee, but it would cost you a lot of money to make a unit of 3 out of them!

http://wyrd-games.net/shop/Wendigo.html

Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Stormwind on October 22, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
Gnoblars:
http://www.polarfox.info/Steppe_Goblins_Grotlings/p2627799_13020957.aspx

And possibly, Yhetees!
http://www.polarfox.info/Taiga_Trolls/p2627799_12488305.aspx
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: andys on September 05, 2015, 08:52:01 AM
Rhinox riders? I guess it depends on how big the riders are in comparison to infantry figures.
There again, £4.95 for a unit of 3, what's not to like?

http://www.magistermilitum.com/orc110-orc-boar-rider-command-1696.html
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: empireaddict on September 05, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
The website says '23 mm, trotter to eye'.  But I have one and I it is 20mm from base to top of its head.  Hope that helps.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Flogger on August 10, 2016, 10:04:24 AM
What has happened to the Abomination Ogres? They were no doubt the prettiest ones  :'(
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Stormwind on August 10, 2016, 01:47:55 PM
Gone, I'm afraid, the chap who did them ran into trouble with the Defeat in Detail line.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Flogger on August 11, 2016, 09:58:25 PM
Defeat in detail?

Well I'm happy I bought an ogre army from him before that, now they're a gorgeous rarity :)
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: kyussinchains on August 11, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
Defeat in detail?

it was his 6mm range produced after the demise of Specialist Games, he suffered all kinds of production woes and bad luck and IIRC lost a fair chunk of money on the whole thing, (also I think he got sick and tired of packing and sending eleventy billion parcels every day!) so he sold the business, the range is now available from and being expanded by, Vanguard miniatures

/threadjack
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Geep on August 12, 2016, 04:25:52 AM
I remember an excellent range of Ogres that was made available through this forum some years ago- it had Bulls and Leadbelchers, and may have also had Ironguts (or they were 'coming soon'). I can't remember too many details, but they may have been made by Evil and Chaos?
I know E&C doesn't produce many of his old sculpts anymore (a huge shame), so would it be too wrong of a friendly forumite to recast them?
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Stormwind on August 12, 2016, 01:47:39 PM
@Geep

These are the ones we're talking about.  Abomination was his webstore name.  He only made the Bulls and Leadbelchers available, showed some screenshots of WIP rhinox riders and so on, but his bread and butter was doing Epic and there weren't enough orders to warrant him doing the full range that he planned.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Geep on August 12, 2016, 02:50:57 PM
Ah- thanks, and damn. Too much of E&C's awesome stuff has only briefly seen the light of day, if ever.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: andys on August 21, 2016, 01:04:41 PM
Could be interesting:

http://fanplasticlittlemen.blogspot.co.uk/2016_08_01_archive.html
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Stormwind on August 21, 2016, 07:02:36 PM
Blimey those look good, especially for mercenary ogres for O&G and DoW!
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Stormwind on August 29, 2016, 04:27:19 PM
https://www.facebook.com/SinisterSquidStudios/

Those ogres look fantastic with some paint on them!
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: andys on August 29, 2016, 06:25:11 PM
Nice. Hope they'll be doing more than 3 casts.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Stormwind on February 26, 2017, 01:12:18 AM
http://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/shop/ogres-with-melee-weapons-x18/

Abomination Ogres are available again! =D

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blackgateminiatures/10mm-fantasy-ogre-miniatures-from-black-gate-minia

And the Black Gate ogres are looking fab.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: andys on March 25, 2018, 12:29:24 PM
How about these first two links for Gnoblars. With the addition of the archers, they could be basic Goblins for an O&G army.

https://www.microworldgames.com/collections/6mm-fantasy/products/lesser-goblin-rabble

https://www.microworldgames.com/collections/6mm-fantasy/products/lesser-goblin-spears

https://www.microworldgames.com/collections/6mm-fantasy/products/lesser-goblin-archers
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Ogre Kingdoms
Post by: Stormwind on March 25, 2018, 05:57:29 PM
Those are great!  I've not seen them, before.

The Black Gate kickstarter Ogres are coming along, but I haven't seen a clear Gnoblar proxy picture, yet.  Should be soon though!