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Title: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: athensfantasy on August 04, 2013, 01:44:54 PM
As many of you know, since GW stopped producing 10mm figures, I have started making lists that map warmaster troop types to miniatures that are widely available today:
http://www.athens-fantasy.gr/2013/07/warmaster-miniatures-in-the-post-gw-era/

There are several armies I haven't prepared yet, so I am turning this into a collaborative effort. Feel free to post ideas/links here and I will sum it up on the blog post to have everything collected there. I will try to keep it up to date as new lines are released to cover the gap in the 10mm market.

so this thread is about the Dark Elves:

Spearmen
Crossbowmen
Witch Elves
Dark Riders
Cold One Knights
Harpies
War Hydra
Bolt Thrower
General
Hero
Sorceress
Manticore (Mount)
Chariot (Mount)
Cauldron of Blood
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: forbes on August 04, 2013, 05:19:35 PM
The two main suppliers for Dark Elves are Kallistra and Pendraken - as the Kallistra range is based on the Pendraken figures, then compatibility should be very high between the suppliers.

Spearmen
Kallistra 701
Pendraken FDE2

Crossbowmen
Kallistra 702
Pendraken FDE1, FDE8

Witch Elves
Pendraken FDE7

Dark Riders
?? Perhaps a celtic style human cavalry?

Cold One Knights
Kallistra 704
Pendraken FDE5

Harpies
Pendraken FBG12 Gargoyles - they are human size flyers - but not really harpies

War Hydra
??

Bolt Thrower
Kallistra 703

General & Hero
Kallistra 707 command
Pendraken FDE10 and FDE4 also FDE3 and FDE9 sword armed

Sorceress
There may be a figure in the Kallistra or Pendraken Command packs.
Pendraken High Elf FHE6 has a wizard style figure, that is perhaps female.

Manticore (Mount)
Pendraken DN58  (perhaps a little small?)

Chariot (Mount)
Kallistra 705 chariots

Cauldron of Blood
I think the stove in the Pendraken Dwarf cooks pack would be a good basis for this, if the top was trimmed off.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: kyussinchains on August 04, 2013, 08:43:22 PM
Good start, I'd consider using these (http://magistermilitum.com/product.asp?numRecordPosition=6&P_ID=10356&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=1207) from magister militum as dark riders

also this (http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/4810-dark-elf-gor%C3%82%E2%80%99dragon-p-2765.html) or this (http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/4822-dark-elf-gor%C3%82%E2%80%99daris-dragon-p-2766.html) from Ral Partha would make a good manticore proxy, or as the basis for a hydra conversion

with everyone's consent, I'd like to tidy up the thread and make a master list in the first post of each of these threads :)
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: Lex on August 05, 2013, 08:08:51 AM
I would definitly do that (the tyding up), and try to move discussion/debate on stuff to separate threads too!.

I would keep the contributors posts in the thread! Just shorten them where needed.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: jchaos79 on August 20, 2013, 12:27:04 AM
PEN OT-2 Ottoman turkish 16 cent foot characters has a cauldron very interesting for cauldron of blood proxi.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: Stormwind on November 08, 2014, 03:22:06 PM
http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=7988&osCsid=4vma1o8hu6lcsradpodusmhgt2

Potential War Hydra proxy?
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: Stormwind on February 07, 2015, 11:07:43 PM
Thoughts on the Cauldron of Blood:

I really like the idea of using an Eldar Avatar from Epic scale to use as a kind of statue of Khaine:

http://boardgamegeek.com/image/1501359/warmaster

This one uses a 28mm figure for the Khaine statue:

http://www.2md.dk/gw-warmaster/images/armies/dark_elves/lothaires_dark_elves/Cauldron%20of%20Blood%20%28Front%29.jpg

I especially like the idea of a WW2 helmet being used as a cauldron.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: andys on June 16, 2015, 05:45:06 PM
Good start, I'd consider using these (http://magistermilitum.com/product.asp?numRecordPosition=6&P_ID=10356&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=1207) from magister militum as dark riders

also this (http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/4810-dark-elf-gor%C3%82%E2%80%99dragon-p-2765.html) or this (http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/4822-dark-elf-gor%C3%82%E2%80%99daris-dragon-p-2766.html) from Ral Partha would make a good manticore proxy, or as the basis for a hydra conversion

with everyone's consent, I'd like to tidy up the thread and make a master list in the first post of each of these threads :)
Apologies for the necromancy but the link to Magister Militum figures doesn't work - what are they please?
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: kyussinchains on June 18, 2015, 08:30:22 AM
I honestly can't remember for sure, but I think it was these

http://www.magistermilitum.com/era/fantasy/fef6-elven-horse-archers.html

the 10mm elven horse archers, with a dark colour scheme and a few spikes they'd make fine dark riders
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: andys on June 18, 2015, 05:30:08 PM
Thanks  :)
Although as I type this the Magister Militum website seems to be down, I think I'm jinxed!  :(
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: Kealios on June 29, 2015, 06:11:27 AM
It's been working for me all week...I've been shopping for various armies since last week :)

http://www.magistermilitum.com/ (http://www.magistermilitum.com/)
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: Stormwind on June 29, 2015, 03:07:03 PM
OK apparently a really good cauldron in plastic bitz is the Warhammer 40k vehicle searchlight you get with Imperial Guard tanks.

Someone also suggested using the 40k era Eldar Avatar as Malekith.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: calmacil on June 29, 2015, 07:14:41 PM
Yeah i used the epic avatar as well. I put that figure ontop of the pile of skulls from the undead general

For the cauldron i used a 28mm upside down WWII german helmet

(http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr279/waylander2/warmaster169.jpg)
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: empireaddict on June 30, 2015, 07:28:43 AM
Very nice cauldron.  Good use of reds!
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: andys on August 26, 2015, 05:42:19 PM
Another War Hydra proxy?

http://www.15mm.co.uk/products/hot35-giant-hydra

65mm high - how does that compare with the GW original?
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: forbes on August 27, 2015, 05:48:07 PM
Looks good.

It is taller than the GW one, but the heads in the GW one are leaning forwards, rather than up.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: athensfantasy on September 06, 2015, 02:35:17 PM
I have this for my 15mm HOTT Dark elf army and it would require a some trimming to fit in a 20mm base (in terms of width).
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: Kealios on March 20, 2016, 06:06:27 PM
http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=7988&osCsid=4vma1o8hu6lcsradpodusmhgt2

Potential War Hydra proxy?

Yes. I purchased this just this week, and it appears spot on.

EDIT: Actually, it's so much smaller! *shocked*

I'll get a shot of it up against a "real" DE Hydra soon.

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn100/Kealios/10mm%20Fantasy/Hydra%20top_zpsavubuvd2.jpg)
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn100/Kealios/10mm%20Fantasy/Hydra%20three%20quarter_zpsmmrtcaj9.jpg)
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn100/Kealios/10mm%20Fantasy/Hydra%20side_zpsmgcf0d7z.jpg)
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn100/Kealios/10mm%20Fantasy/Hydra%20facing_zpsjyd5shrw.jpg)

I wrote a bit more about it here: http://kealios.blogspot.com/2016/03/10mm-warmaster-dark-elf-hydra.html (http://kealios.blogspot.com/2016/03/10mm-warmaster-dark-elf-hydra.html)

I'm fairly shocked that no good 10mm harpy proxies seem to exist though. I know about the Gargoyles from Pendraken, but...dunno, just surprised.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: forbes on April 21, 2016, 08:12:03 PM
Thats a pretty cool hydra - the GW is pretty huge.

The nicest not GW harpies are the ones from the Evil Men KS - but I don't think Yann has arranged for these to get into production with anyone, which is a shame.
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: jchaos79 on April 21, 2016, 11:29:11 PM
do you have the model of pendraken gargolyes?

I am curious about these models.... maybe you could share them in the catalogue?
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on April 22, 2016, 11:33:41 PM
do you have the model of pendraken gargolyes?

I am curious about these models.... maybe you could share them in the catalogue?

Hello

I found some pictures on Google, have added them to the catalogue :).

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: jchaos79 on April 22, 2016, 11:35:59 PM
Thanks Grumpy!

hyperlink done
Title: Re: proxy ideas: Dark Elf
Post by: Stormwind on December 16, 2017, 01:11:56 PM
http://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/product-category/fantasy-miniatures-10mm/10mm-onslaught-miniatures/

The Dark Elf proxies are available in the UK now!