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Warmaster => [WMA] Warmaster Historical Discussion => Topic started by: Edmund2011 on May 15, 2013, 11:54:00 PM
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Some pics and a small report from this battle. :)
Being so heavily outnumbered, the only chance for the English is to get quickly to the forests to secure the flanks and place the stakes very fast...
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p522/Edmund2011/Agincourt%20battle/1_zpsf9623cad.jpg)
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Great battle
The history has changed now and in the day of San CrispÃn the victory is for the French king.
In terms of warmaster and in your opinion, how many possibilities has Henry V if "1 is impossible battle", "5 is depends on the dices completely" and "10 victory is assured" ?
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Mmm... this is a very difficult scenario for the English, very unbalanced.
I have played it 4 times in smaller games and once in the big one of the report. 3 ties and 2 French victories. That means that even charging "in masse" and forcing english breaking point the french losses in points are higher ---> Tie.
In a couple of the small games I treated the battlefield mudded, so all units in the open are considered Slow, and balanced a little bit more the scenario. The big scenario had not the mud rule in use. I want to play the big scenario with mud too, to compare.
Even if Henry can place his forces between the forests and place the stakes (as he historically did) leaving small room to the french to manouvre, he has to face an enemy with a much higher breakpoint and with lots of cavalry (the historical French did not really use the main cavalry force, and relied everything to isolated cavalry charges and poor infantery assault, without missile)
Only with longbow shooting is not going to give victory, but longbowmen+knights and billmen in combined arms+stakes, when charged gives a (small, around 15% I'd say) chance...
Very interesting battle to play with WMA. I will continue playtesting it. Next time with mud... ;)
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Nice battle, thanks for sharing!
The french cavalry should get always get a -1 to commando or something (no charge bonus) like that to make it more realistic. :)
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Thanks Guthwine!
Why is the -1 you suggest to Command for? what is the reason?
Until now I have considered:
When charging stakes there is no charging bonus, in the open they have it. With the mud rules all units will suffer a -1 (slow) and should slow down the french advance. Also French commanders have less Command bonus (8 against Henry V that has 9)
But any comments and ideas are always welcomed :)