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Specialist Games General Discussion => Modeling & painting => Topic started by: Stormwind on May 21, 2012, 07:09:55 PM
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Righto - I thought I'd put a post here otherwise I shall go mad and not do anything. I am finally, FINALLY getting the courage to pick up a brush and try painting some models.
The sum total of GW or other models I have painted in my life can be summed up as:
A mishmash of awful attempts at painting some Epic ("Space Marine" as it was known then) age 5-7.
About 20 marines from Space Crusade and 2 of the first Rhino tanks when I was about 9.
2 "Spyrer" models for Necromunda and 5 Ratling snipers when I was 13.
And now at 26 I still feel like a kid, so please please be kind when I do do finish something and post it. x-D
I've been delayed by bad weather stopping me from spray-undercoating things but I finally got some black on some units. The problem is trying to go over every nook and cranny by hand with Chaos Black to make sure no bare metal shines through. I am seriously considering hand varnishing them when they are done as they seem so vulnerable to knocks. I am only really used to plastic, an exclusively metal system is a new experience for me.
One thing delaying me was figuring out how to paint them. I saw others using lollipop sticks to glue them on for painting, found some in my local art shop and started glueing and scraping off flash and mould lines!
I had originally intended to paint them with a beach scheme, suggesting white sands of Ulthuan and united defenders marching out to face their foe. However, fiddling with some of my colours, all I seemed able to produce was a pale fleshy colour, or something that looked like snow. I changed my mind and experimented further. I thought I'd try making the ground look like purple or blueish shale, a rocky beach but a magical pointy eared rocky tree hugger beach perhaps. =-P So I tried Adeptus Battle Grey. then a dilute Hawk Turquoise and badab black to wash - then when that dried a drybrush of space wolves grey. It's not perfect but I think it'll do, especially for my first army!
For now, some pics of the most dispiriting manual tasks of fiddling with pinning eagles and my dragon, and the joy of the first parcel of elves arriving.
Soon I will get the Vallejo Grey Pumice I need to start preparing bases - that should be a confidence building task, fingers crossed!
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I am happy that you start painting your first army. Your background sounds almost like mine. I painted only a few whfb minis as a teen and years later I am working on my third wm army. Hope to see as many armies from you and lots of pics. :) Wish you luck.
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Good luck with your first army. A very daunting task but well worth it! :)
Just a small hint from me, I personally dislike the lollipop sticks and just use a random (in my case oversized) piece of wood. But it gives you a good and steady hold over the models and you can just repeat the same brush strokes over and over for the whole unit. (if the factory painting suits your style)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2248/p1010167bu.jpg
For beach sand you could try desert yellow as a base with a bleached bone drybrush.
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That's a lot of elves! Looking forward to your progress. :)
So I tried Adeptus Battle Grey. then a dilute Hawk Turquoise and badab black to wash - then when that dried a drybrush of space wolves grey. It's not perfect but I think it'll do, especially for my first army!
Sounds... interesting! Any pics of that yet?
Just a small hint from me, I personally dislike the lollipop sticks and just use a random (in my case oversized) piece of wood.
I agree with that. I've got some of my older models on lollipop sticks, but started sticking newer ones on oversized versions. (also from an art/craft shop) Chunkier and easier to hold.
Though if you've already got the regular size, Stormwind, I'd recommend sticking one strip per stick. Leaves plenty of room to grip either end.
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Just a small hint from me, I personally dislike the lollipop sticks and just use a random (in my case oversized) piece of wood.
I agree with that. I've got some of my older models on lollipop sticks, but started sticking newer ones on oversized versions. (also from an art/craft shop) Chunkier and easier to hold.
Though if you've already got the regular size, Stormwind, I'd recommend sticking one strip per stick. Leaves plenty of room to grip either end.
Raid Starbucks !! (they have those very nice LONG sticks) or a local DIY (they will give you sticks for paintstirring)
@ Stormwind... I would go for a generic Bounty Beach sand (white decorator sand will work nicely !) and model the beachy bits on your bigger character bases...
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Thanks for the encouragement!
Oh dear, as you can see from these photos I already sued up a wholepack of lolly sticks glueing units!
Here is a close up shot with natural light thank goodness which shows the base of the reavers with the mentioned colouring. I think I've given up on the lighter beach white / yellow / bone colour idea at this point.
Hurrah! This pumice just came in the post. The plan is to put that on the bases separately, spray and paint them separately then glue the strips of models onto the gaps I leave. Not perfect but I think a fair game plan for my first army. =-P
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An attempt to use the Vallejo Grey Pumice!
**Sorry for underwhelming post - I was trying to post last week and it kept giving me database errors after I'd typed out but not saved a bigger post. =-<
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Those look like some rather stunty elves...
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Never knew dwarfs had infiltrators. :)
Let me know how the pumice works for you. Always had trouble blending the bases into the ground, especially with archer strips.
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*Redface*
They do look stunty, but there's some Phoenix Guard sneaking up behind them... ;-)
Oops, forgot to say, since the forum had eaten all my posts...
I have been going through the mechanical stuff of stripping and preparing a whole bunch of Dwarf Slayers and Dwarf Warriors, in the hopes of eventually having a starter army of Dwarves to face off against my Elves, so that I can turn up at the local gaming club and try to teach an interested party...
Also, I found that the advice on lollipop sticks is accurate here, and so my new idea is to base half my strips on the stands to begin with, paint them as they are they, THEN glue the ones on wood sticks on afterwards after they are painted.
That way, the pumice won't look so bad. It's looking great so far... What I do is use a "dead" modelling knife blade to put it into place.
Today I've been experimenting, using Astronomicon Grey as a base BEFORE putting on the ceramite white for robes, and using Deneb Stone on archer bows as a basecoat before Bleached Bone. Also doing the slate colours on bases.
Let me say that the new GW Imperial Primer is great, it's working a lot better than Chaos Black for me at filling in the gaps and covering the surfaces of units that didn't get completely covered by the spraypaint.
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Your basing method is the same as mine, I find it works well. It is worth noting that it tends to shrink when drying so may need two coats (though you usually don't neet to), it's also worth knowing that it's pretty soft and can be cut with a knife when dry to if you put too much behind the front base you can trim it to fit very easily). I also don't like the lolly-stick approach and tend to stick strips to paint pots as I find them easier to hold.
Good luck with it all, I wish you the speed and focus that I lack as a painter!
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Hey, the pic is a bit far to see the base well, but anyway.. Great pictures of space marines!
you draw so well.
Looking forward to see some paint in your figures and have fun
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Very good!
Personally, I base my front line of figures, spray them black then dry brush with white before adding base colours/inks. The second rankers I just hold them with my fingers, have never bothered with the whole lolly pop stick thing?
I guess its what you're used to.
Dave
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Just to add a couple of things - to show what I mean when I glue and base half the archers. And the gaps I've left for the rear strip on infantry.
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now I see, they gonna look fantastic!
great work
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Part completed HE bolt throwers, first experiment with Imperial Primer as manual undercoat.
- Astronomicon Grey base coat
- Ceramite White on top of that. Chainmail for the metal - will use blue on the side parts - was considering gold but I really want my elves to look cold and alien if possible.
I'm trying Charadon granite as a very dark brown on the little tree stumps that are on the HE bases, want to suggest trampled wood I guess.
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Elfves form the Crytsal Island and Foreverland Winter... cool
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There, finally finished the throwers, that's two lots of crew based and the "shale" painted, now to paint the crew themselves! These are the first things I've painted as an adult and it feels good. =D
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Yep, the are looking good!
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They look pretty damn good. I mean, there's not a whole lot you can do with this scale. I like the highlights on the blue parts and good contrast everywhere else. Even though the photo is a bit over-saturated you can still see the contrast, so that's good painting on your part :D
Also, base looks really good. If "shale" was what your were going for, shale is what you got. Would like to see the loaders done too!!!
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Hello all,
I am really sorry, this isn't a specialist games thing - though it's an Infinity model, which is very much in the spirit of Inquisitor and Necromunda!
The reason I am posting this is that this is the first model I have finished in about 8 or 9 years I think. And it's given me a bit of a boost. There's passing interest in my club for Epic - but right now I feel I burning desire to finish the rest of this Infinity group, and sort out a Saga warband of Normans.
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The figure looks awesome. I specially like the face, with the beard. Robes and armour looks wear, cool.
Infinity has really good figures, and is quite common here in Spain.
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In fact i love these miniatures, i have a painted nomad army and an aleph army still in the box :-)
Your ariadna's army is going to be beautiful if all of the miniatures have the same level...
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Sorry but it looks like all my painting is going to be non Specialist stuff for the foreseeable future. =-<
I still want to share pics with my comrades though.
This is my first Line Kazak for my Infinity force! Took me ages to get the face right but I think I am learning!
I have some Merovingians cleaned up and based too so I have them to paint if I want a break from green camo to grey camo. = )
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I like it. Wonderful job on the eyes, they add a lot of personality. My only comment is that the blue corneas make him look like he's addicted to melange.
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Ha ha, thanks. The problem is that his right eye is perfect, but the sculpt has... just the tiniest fraction of a millimeter drop on his left eye which makes it almost impossible to dot a pupil and make them look even. So I compromised and just suggested a bright blue.
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Just to show I've not been idle...
My friends at my club are getting into Black Powder and Blitzkrieg Commander II.
Both of these systems are very heavily based on Warmaster, in the very least in terms of the command roll 2D6 structure.
I am hoping in time to get them to play my game, this year if possible. :-X
In the meantime this is what I've been up to...
1: An Eternity Stair terrain piece for my friend. He paid me with some GW drybrushes which have come in useful for scenery!
2: Metros for Infinity. Still haven't finished these properly but proud of what I did. 2 of them, but the person I played with is moving house to the Midlands and has also gone on Missionary work to Honduras. So... Kind of hard to play with him again so Infinity is mothballed unless an older club member comes out of the wood work to play. =D
3: Levies for Saga. We have a tournament coming up later this month, still have 16 cavalry and 8 footmen to paint for it, just finished undercoating and basing them now. This crowd of 12 is the first unit I have ever finished painting. Ever. =)
4: Warmaster Bridges! From the Kalistra Hordes and Heroes 10mm terrain resin range. I've got 3, these 2 are already passable, one left to go. Just painted them today!
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Out of nowhere, I finally decided to finish painting this High Elf unit!
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My first ever finished Epic unit! A space wolf rhino.
And some more on the assembly line. When I get a better picture of the falcons I will post them. 19 falcons I'm painting in the Mymera colour scheme.
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Wow! Looking good.
19 Falcons - I'm jealous. Wished I'd picked up an epic eldar army before it all went bang!
Dave
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Just realised I didn't even post some better non-SG pics I had along with the falcons!
Here we have the last Infinity model I finished. He's been touched up more since then - but these 5 models I poured hours into are mothballed as the one guy I played with has moved away to Derby and no one regularly plays around here.
Next there's a group shot of half of my Norman army for SAGA - really proud of these - first units I've ever painted. =-)
Finally are my 19 falcons awaiting finishing touches and also for me to undercoat then paint the turrets.
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BEHOLD!
I am not dead!
My first ever actually honestly definitely FINISHED warmaster units. The bolt throwers I did a while ago, finally varnished them, painted the base sides and put static grass on.
Dragon Ogres I finished last Friday and is my first Chaos unit! My gaming group who have had far far less time than me and fewer options for modelling are shaming me by racing ahead and painting 100s of points of Warmaster so now I have no choice but to get to painting it (And to figure out a good storage solution so they don't get chipped once they're done!)
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very nice basing and great painting. congrat.
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Yep, i like the basing too. Painting job is classical for the elves, but ok.
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Liking the Elven armor.
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Got some 40mm Renedra bases at Colours, perfect for Generals and large hero bases.
Mounted my dragons on them. Used bits of a Chaos Vehicle sprue on the Chaos Dragon to look like it has come out of some horrible ruins in a blasphemous ritual!
High Elf Dragon has a little artefact from the Warhammer Elf Mage plastic kit, works perfectly as a rune stone here!
These models are hellish to build / glue / pin / green stuff but I think so long as I'm gentle with them they should survive :-X
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Really nice bases
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Annnd 2nd unit of Dragon Ogres painted!
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Ready to fight! great bases and nice painting!
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Great stuff. What is that you're using on the bases?
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Vallejo grey pumice with a sprinkling of the fine grey slate in the GW basing kits (Assume that's the same as all the other basing kits!)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vallejo-GREY-PUMICE-200mls-Stone-Textures-Scenery-acrylic-Medium-26213-/181192139117?_trksid=p2054897.l4276
And GW static grass.
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I see. Thanks!
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Finished my 2 units of Chaos Hounds!
Took me much longer than intended - I tried rushing through some of these without properly undercoating them and it made everything take a lot longer!
Very happy with how they look now. =)
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And - I finished my first command stand, Chaos Sorceror!
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Very nice basing and painting!
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Looking suitably savage!
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Sorc looks pretty good standing on that rock. As stated above the painting and basing is pretty damn solid, it will really pull the army together once completed!
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Thank you all!
2nd Sorceror done and based - so on 740 points painted now - though I am avoiding the units I really need to paint!
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Ah, the old "I'll point this way, then I'll go that way"-feint. :)
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Hee, yes, the poor Sorceror probably thinks a lot more of himself than his men do, knowing Chaos... ;-P
Have some spawn!
Up to 850 points painted now.
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Nice, nice, really...
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Thanks!
And now another unit, Harpies! Had a little trouble getting my brush in - resigned myself to not adding much detail - really wanted to have another unit finished - if I can get a functioning army painted - I can feel that accomplishment and move on to Dwarves. Or Elves. Or Kislev. Or Empire. :-X
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Nice simple, but striking and effective paintjob. Well done.
I've stalled on my Empire Artillery at the moment - hope to get the muse back by the Christmas hols!
Dave
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Good paiting rate. Nice.
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Indeed, impressive rate.
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Lookin good here!
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Thank you all!
And now my first hero stand:
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Very nice. I thought at first that blue was not really interesting for chaos, but i was wrong. It changes from classical red.
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I like the placement of the figures and the base to figure ratio. Not too much, not too little. (Paint is looking good also, didn't mean to leave it out.)
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Thanks for your encouragement, it means a lot to me!
This is my 2nd hero stand.
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That's really nice stuff Stormwind.
Did you use the new GW colors for the knight's armor?
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Thank you!
It's a mix - the base colour of my blues is the incredibly pigment dense Necron Abyss from the old range. You have to be so careful with it as it's the densest pigment of all the GW paints I think - very staining.
Then Regal Blue or the brighter Mordian blue - and the new Caledor Sky paint to finish off.
The banner is done with the new Teclis Blue and the old Ice Blue mixed to make it brighter.
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Really nice. The Blues work really well - as someone said previosuly, it makes a nice change from the usual red and/or green chaos armies that you see (including mine!).
Might have to pinch that colour scheme the next time a chaos brigade demands to be painted.
Dave
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Phew!
This off-balance model was more trouble than anything else. Finally finished it and put 6 coats of Matt Varnish on it as it is gonna fall over on that wing and arm a LOT.
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Two pikes on the base are maybe a little bit too much. One would have been better i think.
I like the colours a little bit less. I have never found red and blue where colours fitting well together, but it's my own perception and i know GW have promoted those colours heavily.
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That's going to be a cool centerpiece of your army. Especially the oxidation effects on the metal look really nice. I like the red and blue combo: It fits well with the rest of the army and gives the dragon a nice chaotic flair.
Go go, post some group shots of your army ;)
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It's not ready to be shot yet. I'm working on a south american concept for my undeads. Aztec and maya undead inspired. With a squated mumy on a palanquin, and eagle and jaguar warriors for skeletons. And an undead giant jaguar as classical sphynx.
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What I did with my chaos dragon is to cut out a thick, heavy circle of lead roofliner sheet and then stick it to the base and file, fill and paint. Result: One dragon that does not fall over!
Dave
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Yeah - my mate Trev suggested something similar!
Kind of stalled out doing test strips for Chaos Knights and Chaos Warriors.
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Behold, the first step on the road to a Wood Elf army that I should not even be contemplating on buying / building >.>
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Nice, but I need another game like I need a hole in "Da Head". So I can't keep looking!
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Excellent! I'm really looking forward to your Wood Elf army.
I've been tempted to start one too, but the finances are far too tight.
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Thanks! Right now though - I'm building 5 Sally 4th boxes to put units into.
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Ah my first finished box!
With 4 more in the airing cupboard with the glue setting.
I want a couple of towers of these boxes on my bookshelf so as I build things I can stow them away.
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Neat!
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Hi, a nooby question..
You mention Matt Varnish earlier. I've tried the GW matt varnish spray and found it dulled the colours slightly, particularly metallics. I was wondering what varnish you used?
Your miniatures look great by the way and neat box. See you have access to a laser cutter.
Jono
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You mention Matt Varnish earlier. I've tried the GW matt varnish spray and found it dulled the colours slightly, particularly metallics. I was wondering what varnish you used?
Your miniatures look great by the way and neat box. See you have access to a laser cutter.
It's a fair question to ask! I use this Vallejo Matt Varnish:
http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/model-paints/auxiliary-products/3
It has a slight colour so you know to dilute it with water until the colour is much less noticeable and not to let it pool in recesses. I normally do 2 coats on my models but maybe I should do more. AFTER that has dried I then glue static grass on.
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As for the laser cutter, no ha ha, that's from these guys!
http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/epages/950003459.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950003459/Products/c007/SubProducts/c005-0001[1]
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Thanks for the tip.
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Not a great pic but I am trying to get a head of steam to finish 2000 points by the end of the month. First infantry unit more than half painted.
Just painting the rear strips on a lollipop stick separately before sticking them on!
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They look good. Did you laser cut those boxes yourself? Also, you should rename your thread to "Stormwind Rallies Against the Lead Mountain".
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Finished these Friday night!
Onto Knights now.
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Good Job. Hey, we are both trying to finish the same army :D
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Cool, I expecially dig the way you painted the armor!
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http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat800007a&prodId=prod2250088a
It's rare for me to praise a GW product but this verdigris stuff is what I'm using. Saves me making a glaze using turquoise.
Here's my first half of a Chaos Knights unit, just got to paint it's companions now.
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And now, finally polished off this unit of Giant eagles painted up to imitate Stellar's Sea Eagle since my Elves are meant to be coastal defenders. =)
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Great job on the eagles! :D
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Fantastic!
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2nd base stands of Chaos Knights done, just need to finish off the strips stuck to lollipop sticks. =)
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Fantastic paint job, amazing detail. Have to remind myself I'm not looking at pictures of 28mm figures!
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2 units of Chaos Knights completed!
Probably going to paint another unit of Chaos Warriors - then I will really need to paint some normal Marauders to make the painted army legal.
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Hi, going back to my earlier question about the varnish. Following your advice I got hold of some Vallejo acrylic matt varnish. I've watered it down a lot, maybe 1:50, and it still seems quite milky. It applies clear, but I'm wondering how much varnish I'm actually applying.
How much do you water it down by?
Thanks
Jono
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That sounds about right. Once you apply it, it looks clear.
I just make sure it doesn't pool too much in recesses and on the base - just like you would with a normal wash.
Then I put it into the airing cupboard to dry for 20 minutes - then I repeat the process.
Try it on a test model first.
I started doing 2 coats but now I do several if I have time.
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Latest Chaos Warrior unit completed!
And a group shot of it all lined up! 12 blister packs done... About 200 more to go. @.@
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Very nice finish , looking good .
Stuart
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Best varnish technique.
Halfords Clear coat first.
Followed by a light dusting of testors dullcote.
I used vallejo on some other projects and found it to dull down the model too much taking the vibrancy out of the colours.
40,000 pts of warmaster can't be wrong ;)
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Hi, going back to my earlier question about the varnish. Following your advice I got hold of some Vallejo acrylic matt varnish. I've watered it down a lot, maybe 1:50, and it still seems quite milky. It applies clear, but I'm wondering how much varnish I'm actually applying.
How much do you water it down by?
Thanks
Jono
Vallejo Matt acrylic varnish turns milky and hazy when you water it down. It has issues with the medium. I uses to use it extensively, and I'd actually add acrylic medium to the varnish. Now I use vallejo polyurthane Matt varnish, it's friggin awesome, and super durable. I strongly recommend it.
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This is a pic of the two terrain bases I started making 2 weeks ago. They are 3mm thick MDF cut up with a jigsaw and then filed round the edges. Then they are sanded along the very edge to make them look less harsh and I layer on the resin with an old modelling knife and an old paintbrush. I bought the white pumice without thinking when I should have bought the black sand one instead, would have saved me some black undercoating paint! Whilst it was still wet I added some shredded slate from a Warhammer basing kit.
I bought some not-that-cheap-but-cheaper-than-Games-Worshop-by-a-mile acrylic in Black and Brown from my local independent art shop and then Painted them so far. It's still very dark. Going to use the dregs of some GW adeptus battlegrey and some Khemri brown mixed up to lighten it and add the grey rocks on. Then I will give a light coat of PVA as a cheap varnish and add some big patches of GW static grass.
I plan to use it for Warmaster, Warhammer, 40k, SAGA etc.
Terrain bases are just a fab idea.
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looking good
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Yep. For my part, i'm happy with my white sand pumice (or equivalent from Prince August). Rather white than black, for you can turn your white into black easily, while the reverse is not possible. And white basing is far lighter. I prefer, for my part.
About grass, beware not to add to much of them. I consider in 10 mm range sanding is ok for making grass. If you had classical flocage, in will add some extremly high grass. Frequently, there are not so many of them in nature. And they are regrouped as sod rahter than large areas.
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And all varnished up and static grassed.
=)
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Well done!
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I'm not really fond of the green spots.
For my part, i found the grass flocage too high for common grass. I paint my sanded bases in earth and then green to make common grass, and add some clumps of this grass flocage here and there, with pieces of cork to add rocks and avoid this spot aspect.
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These are the kind of thing I was emulating and hoping to surpass:
http://scenics.co.uk/index.php?option=com_rokecwid&view=ecwid&Itemid=141#!/~/product/category=3196106&id=13748231
Remember, also, these are just prototypes - I'm nervous about actually painting things green because that reminds me of how hideous everything looked in the 90s in wargaming, goblin green bases, anyone? =-P
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Finally got round to borrowing my Dad's jigsaw!
4 new pieces done, pictured here with the first 2 test pieces.
I'm going to order about 20 trees from S&A scenics so I can really do a nicely wooded board
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After weeks of inactivity I cleared my desk and left one thing to paint. Been super ill but still managed to concentrate on finishing this guy!
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Looking really good!
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Not much to show - but since I'm trying to get back into Warmaster generally, I thought I'd resurrect this thread...
I saw in the other thread about putting banners from 28mm kits onto metal warmaster sculpts so I had a go at it, myself.
I used the Warhammer Dragon Prince pennants that go on their lances - trimmed down in size and glued on to the Silver Helms. I also found that the more dynamic fluttering pieces of cloth that the White Lions have in their kit and in the chariot kit attached to their axes and horns etc. might be suitable for the Reavers. The Reavers have a smaller banner pole.
Also - Sally 4th were wonderful and custom cut me a bunch of Warmaster inlays at no extra cost! I figured I didn't need 3 command stands in every box so asked for an experimental design with more room for normal units!
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Looking very good! good work stormwind
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They're not quite perfect, but finally finished 3 more terrain templates for rough ground / woodland for Warmaster!
Have assembled the next 5 Sally 4th boxes, just going to glue the inlays now - then I'll have a lot more room top ut units in progress.
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Looks very professional. I like the texture
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Thanks! I have 9 of these, now.
Not very big, when my Dad gets some time we'll chop up some more. Ideally I want enough to do 2 tables.
In addition, in the long run I would like to do some yellow/brown "wasteland" ones to represent Khemri / Araby on a desert cloth.
In a perfect world I would also have some frozen / tundra ones for Kislev / Empire / Naggaroth but that's for a time in the far future.
;-P
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Finally! For the first time in a year I picked up a paintbrush.
First Warmaster unit finished in almost a year. Chaos Hounds, with another unit in progress.
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Looking really good. The basing is super.
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Just a little thing I thought I'd do, here, some objective markers.
When we played a friendly little Warmaster tourney last year we did a basic "capture the three treasure piles" scenario so that it wasn't a simple free for all.
I've been meaning to make some kind of thing like that - and the EDG elven obelisks proved perfect.
I might make some desert ones, too, not sure at the moment.
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nice concept!
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Ha ha! I'm going a lot slower than intended, but still much faster than last year.
Another unit of Chaos Hounds finished! 4 in total now, enough for 2000 points as Chaos. Hounds are the only filler unit that Chaos have so I will ALWAYS field the maximum allowed for breakpoint purposes.
I started on a Chaos Warriors and a Chaos Knight unit but felt I needed a break so think it might actually be dwarf cannons next. It might not be efficient but my desire is simply to be able to look at my desk and not feel tired. =-P
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It is very important you do not feel obligated to paint that or whatever! go for those cannons, no one know when you could need some cannon fire in the game!
By the way, nice unit. Like golden armour in chaos warriors
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Nice! Where do the elven obelisks come from?
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Windmill-Warhammer-Warmaster-Forge-World-Flames-of-War-10mm-15mm-terrain-/121400074179?
Got them from these guys but they seem to have moved on to doing Epic stuff? "Gregster's Lab" on the Tac forum.
You could email them and ask?
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Just to prove I'm not dead, some WIP!
I've got rather a lot of command minis for different factions so I think I'm going to have quite a few 40mm command stands, if for fun if nothing else.
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Hey all!
I have been bitten by an Epic bug and have been posting on the Tactical Command forum. I've got a whooole bunch of models and some on order still to come.
So now my lead mountain is about 80% Warmaster, 20% Epic. =-D
First off is some Grey Knights. I have Space Wolves, too but I still need to get the infantry for them.
I painted all my rhinos in one go as a test colour scheme and I'm super happy with the result.
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I got to try minigeddon about a month ago and was bitten bad by the epic bug.
Have been lurking the TC forum and seen these -very nice ^^ Will be nice to see it all finished :D
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Epic is a great game, and those Epic Stormravens are my bane...
I've recently been wondering if Warmaster could benefit from a small touch of Epic rules- mainly, that if an order is failed the target unit (or one of the target units, if ordering a brigade) can still do one limited action before the usual fail effect happens (eg. the unit can move at up to half speed, but cannot move within 1cm of an enemy unit). A blunder (or Giant goes Wild) would override this.
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I've considered the same as I came into Warmaster from Epic but in the end I think that is what the iniative movement is for. Perhaps increase iniative range to 60 cm?
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I very much like the alternating activation of units between the players and retaining initiative. I feel it gives a more interesting flow and you dont sit around and wait as much as with the IGOUGO that Warmaster uses... Warmaster with alternating activation + retaining would be very interesting but probably a lot of work to implement?
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Back on topic!
A couple of mini projects, finished! It really annoyed me people mixing up their thrown dice and the ones they'd used for wound markers - or markers for carried over wounds and flesh wounds.
So I got some Minibits mdf frames with dice, the largest ones they do at 12mm. Red dice for fresh wounds, blue dice for carried over wounds. =)
Not perfect but I think a damn sight better than any other one I've seen. I have another 10 to make, but in more arid colours. With 20 in total that should work for all but the most elaborate battles and shooting phases. =-P
The "wound markers" in metal there are ones that I now use for confusion markers. 4 dwarf ones, 3 empire and 3 high elf. I'm not going to make ones for each faction, just use these old official ones as generic. I have others for orc/Chaos/undead that I will paint in arid colours.
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The dice frame mounted in circular terrain are fab!
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Thanks!
http://www.minibits.net/Dice-D6-c14/Hit-Markers-sc60/
I got them from this site. =)
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Those might make their way to my tabletop. Great stuff Stormwind.
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Having trouble settling down to paint. So easy to buy pewter, so hard to pick up a paintbrush!
But I did these - test bases for Storm Ravens for my Epic Grey Knights, and also test bases for all the basing in the army, really. Just need to varnish them. not sure if I should add some grass tufts/static grass or if that will spoil the look.
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Looking good to me! I'd leave them as they are...
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I agree with Andy- they look good as-is. The bases don't look like grassy places.
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That pleasant feeling of finally getting something that was nagging you, done.
Some resin outcrops I got from eBay last year. They were chock full of holes and took a lot of fixing - but now look presentable for multiple scales and climes. =)
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You're well rewarded of your efforts, they look nice.
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Thanks, MlF!
Got these done today, as well.
http://www.totalbattleminiatures.com/bigbattalions/10-15mm/accessories.html
The corner and straight dry stone walls from TBM.
Not sure how often I'd actually use them but really wanted to just have some for when we get round to doing more characterful / scenario type affairs especially with buildings.
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I bought the same walls and i'm happy of them :)
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Thanks, MlF!
Got these done today, as well.
http://www.totalbattleminiatures.com/bigbattalions/10-15mm/accessories.html
The corner and straight dry stone walls from TBM.
Not sure how often I'd actually use them but really wanted to just have some for when we get round to doing more characterful / scenario type affairs especially with buildings.
They should be on EVERY battlefield !!! (well almost 8) )
Remember that most battles are near the cultivated areas they are fought for !
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More progress on Epic!
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Those markers are great!
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Great objectives and chimeras. The death korps list lets you use missile silos in-game ;D
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Ha ha, well I did actually buy a bunch of other 40k bits specifically to make missile silos with. The idea was to use vindicator shells as missiles and open rhino hatchesas the base.
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Finally!
FInally got some mojo back for painting Warmaster! My 3rd Chaos Knight unit, varnished and static grassed.
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Great painting Stormwind. Love the Chaos Knights. I'm assuming you won't complain if I happen to have some Epic 40k rubbish bits and pieces and odds and sods with your package? Really have no need for Sci-fi stuff at the moment!
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Ha ha no worries, mate! I am being super lazy and at this rate won't send yours til Monday (Working all weekend) ;.;
I might pass them on to others I am trying to get into Epic. I got people into Warmaster, why not Epic as well. =D
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Great painting, nice mix of silver and gold.
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Don't worry Stormwind...been lazy with my trades too. Probably won't be in the post until Tuesday when I am working from home.
:)
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Sorry this didn't attach for some reason, Silver Helm test stand.
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Yes, they look like proud high elves!
great colour scheme
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The silver helms look great. I'm massively over-stocked on them and should really get round to them myself!!!
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Ha ha, thank you both!
I'm trying out a similar pale scheme with Reaver knights, don't know if it'll work but worth a try.
@Gorrin: I think we still have various bits worth swapping! Again sorry for delay, had family visit, your Empire and stuff is going out first thing tomorrow morning.
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Your silverhelms are really nice Stormwind. Did you think about choosing a different color for the gems? In my opinion something like purple might fit better.
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Ooh, that's an idea! Might try that on another unit.
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Very nice. Personally, I think the red gems work well as a contrast. But I can see purple working too.
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Finally finished my first Silver Helms unit!
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Looking good. But who ate all the pi?
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It's meant to be an Elven rune.
FREEHAND IS HARD
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No offence intended. I think they look good.
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Sorry, just realised my reply was lacking in the appropriate "!" and "=-P" faces so seemed humourless. Yeah, as I was painting them I realised "This... this looks a lot like pi..."
I've already started painting the 2nd unit with the same symbol. Oh well. =-P
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It's important to appease the gods of probability when playing WM, so a variety of mathematically-based symbols/runes might be needed!?
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Finished off my dragon!
It's hard to get a good focus shot on such a gangly figure. I found it a bit of a chore to paint but at least it's better balanced than the Chaos Dragon was!
Proud of the result, will varnish and static grass it tomorrow. Onto bolt throwers or command stands next probably.
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That is also looking good. Based on previous dragon experiences, it might be worth weighting the base a bit as gangling can equal toppling.
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Nothing to do with the paint-job which is excellent...but why do GW always insist on giving riders on flying things headgear that you most definitely would not want to wear while flying?
"Dive on those foul orcs my drake dive and we shall....oh my head came off due the wind resistance OF MY TWO FOOT TALL HELMET!!!!"
Design rant over! :)
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Head held slightly back and a little bit aerodynamic? There is at least a swept wing shape to the wings on the helmet?!
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You forget that he is on a big throne with a huge back taller than his helmet, that's what he is pinned to. =-P
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And if the Orc-killing doesn't work out, he can always get a place on the stage at the Moulin Rouge?!
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Great paint on the model.
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I agree- the paint on the model is great. The paint not on the model is simply standard paint :P (sorry- couldn't resist)
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:P ::) :)
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Dragon has been touched up and based.
And I finished my 2nd bolt thrower unit. =)
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Finished my 3rd Chaos Warriors Unit!
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How much longer before you summit lead mountain?
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@Dave
Optimistically, if I buy nothing else and increase my output, 5 years. =)
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Great work on the chaos warriors.
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Liking the Warriors. The blue works really well on the 'face' shields.
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Thanks, guys! Been working on chariots. Here's a test stand. Just finished the crew for 2 units of chariots just now and am working on the chariots and horses now.
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Really nice. I say go on !
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Clean white colour, very nice
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Ta da!
Took way longer than intended, but the first chariots I've done for Warmaster!
I thought that if I tried batch painting units it would go faster. That was 6 weeks ago. ;.;
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Very nice!
The blue base edging is an interesting idea- are you giving each army a unique edge colour?
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Thanks!
And yes, I like to have bases looking very distinct. Some people go as far as to have transparent acrylic bases so they fit into every battlefield, but for me I want them to be rocky, snowy, arid, grassy, anything but the 90s GW style of snot green with flock on top. =D
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Agree it's a great idea with the bases...but yeah mine are snot green with flock!
:D
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The aesthetics of base edges are often overlooked. They very much 'frame' the minis and should - as suggested above - say something about the wider context of the troop types. I favour gloss enamels, usually black or brown.
I'll stop now as I'm beginning to sound like some sort of pretentious art critic!
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I want them to be rocky, snowy, arid, grassy, anything but the 90s GW style of snot green with flock on top. =D
Thumbs up!
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Ah, Gorrin, your stuff looks fine, I mean the tone deaf GW studio style from back in the day in White Dwarf. No matter what colour scheme the model had it had to have that snot green edge. =-P
I colour code bases in SAGA, actually:
Hearthguard: Blue (as in blue blooded elites)
Warriors: Red (as in red blooded warriors eager to prove themselves)
Levies: Green (as in they will run away)
Lord: Purple (as in royal purple) =-P
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Nice, can you share a picture of your saga, to see how it works the coloured bases on the battle table?
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Your wish is my command!
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nice nice!
thanks
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Oooooooh....Saga me likey, likey :D
But no I've never played it.
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I colour code bases in SAGA, actually:
Hearthguard: Blue (as in blue blooded elites)
Warriors: Red (as in red blooded warriors eager to prove themselves)
Levies: Green (as in they will run away)
Lord: Purple (as in royal purple) =-P
And they look good and it work, I tend to identify units buy their shield colours or clothing, the peasants have drabber gear.
Some of my units can be 2 Hearthguard one game and one of warriors the next, other than that as Normans they really are wuciwug so I need no further definition.
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Finally getting my human realms terrain in order! Really want to be able to use these to make the table pretty, even if they just act as impassble terrain.
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such lovely terrain. you should use it for sure and take some pics of the game!
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Got to paint them, first. =-P
Been stripping the paint off Lizardmen / Kislev / Chaos / Empire, doing "busy work" the past few days. Next things that I'll probably finish painting are Chaos dragon ogres (Which I proxy as marauder cavalry) and a 2nd Giant Eagle unit.
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Nice saga warband. Very clean looking painting.
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Seconded. BTW. I know I should add to the mountain...but just ordered an Albion army from Adler!
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Almost finished this test stand!
Couldn't get the blues right on the first try, hopefully following stands will be easier.
Warmaster High Elf Reaver
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That is a very nice blue
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They look really really nice
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Thanks, all!
Photo doesn't show it very well, but this is the first spearmen strip I've done.
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Neat!
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nice work, more elves!
I like the blue line in the base. yep indeed.
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As beautiful as ever!
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First unit of Spearmen for High Elves, finished!
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I would not have painted the border of the base of the same colour, it seems a little bit too blue... But the painting job is very nice.
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Well done!
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Personally, I like the blue bases. The edges might look better in a darker blue, but I don't think it matters very much.
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Been tidying up some warmaster stuff - I made a larger Sally 4th box to put my dragons and other giant command stand type bits in, and finally polished off these terrain templates.
I now have 7 wood templates for the cenral board, and also two corners and two side woods pieces. My ideal will be to do a very heavily wooded board with roads going through it, as is shown in the Warmaster rulebook scenario The Flight of Countess Heugenloewd (p86). That needs about 16 wood pieces.
I'd like to be able to make such a heavily wooded table for Lustrian or Wood Elf based battles, too.
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Those look fantastic!!! What do you use for your texture and colors?
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I use Vallejo Pumice which comes in different colours > white, grey, earth brown, black, desert sand etc.
I started using grey but then you have to paint it black and colour it. Now I use black and go brown over it.
You can sprinkle sand or little slate chippings on top of it as it's wet so give it texture for when it dries.
I bought from the art shop some cheap synthetic paint brushes and a big tube of black paint and one of brown, both acrylic. Those are your base colours and I sloppily drybrush it grey in patches then paler brown over the rest, sometimes after a wash of Army Painty tone ink.
I have some desert WIP ones but they haven't turned out brilliantly so right now they are buried in a big box until I can work up the energy to redo a desert board.
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Finally added more to the High Elves!
These are one of the more intense things I've painted. Bright colours on prissy elf units are less forgiving of mistakes!
=P
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Classic colours but very efficient and nice painting job !
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Those are awesome!
I just got some high elves myself, but I have enough empire to paint I won't be getting to them anytime soon. Just curious, did you use a white primer or black primer for these?
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I used black primer... O.O
I am not a smart man.
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neaty :)
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I used black primer... O.O
I am not a smart man.
I know in two old GW painting articles I've read, they both recommend black primer for high elves in warmaster. I guess for scaled armor? You don't recommend it though?
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What I've found in 10mm is that metal over a white surface followed by a black wash leads to a surprisingly good looking result very quickly.
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The thing is that when I look over the WM models, they are so insanely detailed, most of them, and with SO MANY nooks and crannies... What I end up doing is spending a lot of time making sure I can see no bare metal.
I'm not sure that a black wash would be enough to rid me of the fear of having unpainted bits peeking out. =P
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I did my trolls by basing them white and then give it all a wash of nuln oil. Brings up all the little details and that helps a lot with seeing all the little cool details ^_^
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Sure, for fleshy stuff that definitely works! But for heavy armoured characters like the Silver Helms, with LOTS of stark lines between inorganic colours like bridles, shoulder pads, gloves, cloth, tabbards, it's harder in my experience to go down that route.
Remember that I am a quite inexperienced, conservative painter and it takes a lot to make me break out of my habits and try something new. ^.^
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Finally!
Painting multiple units paid off. I worked on my 3rd and 4th Silver Helm units for my High Elves at the same time, and now they look fab!
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Indeed they do!
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Fantastic !
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Looking good.
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Oh wow, those are super bitchin'! Fantastic work!
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Yeah, really nice work ! Excelent unit.
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Thank you all for your kind words!
Stalled a bit on the Elves so trying to turn my engine over with smaller projects. Just finished these scenery / objective markers.
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Really like those. Games with objectives are always fun!
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Yes, nice. I had forgotten those obelisks.
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Had these Hovels bridges for a while and just polished them off as well!
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Them bridges be nice indeed!
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Very nice bridges- and a tactically interesting size
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Thanks, guys!
They're the ones on this page:
http://www.hovelsltd.co.uk/10mmrange.htm
In the original Warmaster rulebook it's said that the bridges or crossing places shouldn't be wide enough for the longer side of the base to go across. I've been looking for ages for bridges that are that width, not too long, and don't have silly bits of partial road or river on them which would restrict which bits of terrain I use them with.
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Painted up my Hovels ruined church!
I got some little N Gauge tombstones for a graveyard but they're tiny and you don't get much for your money. Going to try a different make and see if I can get something a bit more substantial looking for a spooky graveyard.
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Nice model. Well done.
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I don't know why but I wish there was a nice huge spider web in those ruins you know?
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Very nice!
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Thanks guys!
As for spiders, well I have researched spiders for a Shellob spawn model for LOTR in 10mm but it's difficult to get the scale right. The little plastic spiders in the WFB Arachnarok are probably the closest thing I can think of.
Currently have 2000 points of Dark Elves glued, based and basecoated, deciding on a paint scheme for them now.
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Really Nice. I have some of similar terrain in 15mm.
Would the pendraken 10mm giant spiders be any use - these guys http://www.pendraken.co.uk/FAN-MON7-p7259/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/FAN-MON7-p7259/)
cheers
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OK, these aren't finished, but thought I should show that I've been working on something!
These DE bolt throwers just need varnish and snow. The manticore is base coated but I finished the base first, with high elf casualties; an archer and a hero figure from the character blister.
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I love the base of the Manticore !
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Oohyeah! Thats the stuff! Nice base and nice colourscheme!
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What he just said! I like the debris on the Manticore base and the colour scheme for the bolt-throwers is very pleasantly distinctive.
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Very awesome - but as a High elf collector and a lover of the side of good ok I do have some Orcs and chaos warmaster but don't really like them as much) I do however feel sorry for the poor high Elves littered across the manticore's base. If you find yourself with spare Dark elves figures feel free to send them to me so I can add them to my High Elf dragon base as casualties :o)
Keep up the good work!
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It's no slight on High Elves!
High Elves are pretty common and I had tonnes of command and spare figures available. Dark Elves in comparison - not so easy to get! =D
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Good point Stormwind - I prefer my organs on the inside rather than sold for cash to buy dark elf warmaster blisters (Still I hear one needs only 1 kidney). I might just paint up a loose High elf mini in purple and use him as a dark elf casualty then.
cheers mate
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Not quite finished, needs varnish and snow, but good enough to post I think. =)
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Hey, nice ! The eyes are particularily great !
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Great! I really like the Manticore model, especially the skin texture- and you've shown that off well.
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All thumbs up! Evil glowing eyes in the dark! :D
/Mlkr
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Looking good.
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Very nice indeed, Stormwind!
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i just love it mate!
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Yes, I did paint the Hydra eyes the same way I do my High Elf jewels, with a little sparkle. =P
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Here is my command group for High Elves! - Copy pasted description from my blog:
Two mages and two Hero stands. My General is represented by the Dragon stand I completed a while back, because even if he's not riding a Dragon in the rules, I refuse to allow my General to be anything less than the most impressive model on the battlfield!
These Hero stands were inspired by one of the lovely fiction/"fluff" stories in the original Warmaster rulebook. In this story, a commanding officer and his cohorts see from a distance a comrade being chased down and slain by enemy forces. Before this scout dies, he shoots an arrow directly at the feet of the officer, wrapped with an important message that could change the tide of the battle.
The idea of the High Elves being such exceptional shots that they could use bows and arrows to telegraph each other messages seemed to me too good to pass up.
On each Hero stand you can see the officer listening to their scribe reading out a scroll (or taking dictation, maybe?) as the archer prepares to fire the message to their peers down the line. The archers were a spare normal archer strip I got with odds and ends on eBay. I clipped it in half and trimmed the base to fit it on here. The Hero figures and scribes are normal figures found in the original Warmaster High Elf command blister.
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They are beautifull, and clean painted.
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Beautiful and inspiring!
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Lovely work! :)
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Magnificent! I love that High Elf mage model, and it looks like you made a great water bender with it.
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Neaty! great command
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They are great - love the colours as they really bring the bases to life.
Well done!
cheers
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Thanks for your kind words! Always encouraging to have an audience for painting. =)
Latest unit finished, my 2nd Spearmen unit, pretty happy with them!
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They all look brilliant and shiny like any selfrespecting, haughty and overpridefull High Elf should ;)
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Very good! What colors of blue to you use for those shields? I really like it!
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Good work!
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That is a really nice unit Stormwind. The rune on the banner is a great addition and well executed!
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Nice ! I'm not fond of the blue base, but the troops are very nice.
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Lovely looking figures.
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Copy paste from the blog:
"According to the Warhammer: Uniforms & Heraldry of the High Elves, the rune is Edra, which stands for "Laughter, the cruelty of Fate". This feels appropriate considering my dice rolls..."
=-P
So, the blues. Well, I used to base them with Mordian Blue, but Regal Blue and Caledor Sky also work as bases. Then layer Teclis Blue is the brightest one on the Spearmen. The hems of their robes I do at the end with straight Teclis Blue, I don't bother building that up.
For the Silver Helms I take it up to Hoeth Blue, a newer Layer paint from GW. I've been doing that very inefficiently in the past. I might have been painting for a couple of years now but still find it hard to break out of bad habits or slow ways of doing things that duplicate work.
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Beautiful work,
Looks like I might have 3 new warmaster converts. They even bought 10mm armies at Salute.
I bought a "Kingdoms of Ind" army for which I'll write my own list. I just need a Kali-type demon model that will fit in. So that's just 5,000 points of Chaos, 4,000 each of Elves, Dwarfs and O&G, 2,500 points of Empire, 1,500 of Kislev, 2,000 of Albion and Undead and...NOW...a Kingdoms of Ind to do. All that while shoehorning in Oldhammer and Kings of War.
Experience tells me not to look at the Polarfox site anymore. Undead and Bret heroes you say? HERE'S MY CREDIT CARD!!!
Good times.
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Wow those guys really pop. Lovely brushwork and the standard is really well done. I just like 2 nights ago was painting symbols on High elf spear-elf shields and yours are really well done and consistent. I can appreciate the effort required. Also well done on having all the spears intact - a rarity amongst those lovely WM Spear elves.
Thanks for the photies :)
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Thanks for your kind words, guys.
These fellas clearly need varnishing and static grass, but I just want to post pictures of them to show I've done something!
I hate chaos chariots. They have tonnes of nooks and crannies and they are so warped that trying to get them flat on a base is a pain. Finally got this one done, and another one on the go. ;.;
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Yes indeed, and the spikes n the wheels somtimes bother with the adjacent stand and is difficult to align. But the unit is great and once ensambled and painted you forget quickly those details!
good work!
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yes, they are complicated but you did well with them, don't worry :)
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Very Nice - I hadn't seen those fig before. High Elf eagles are also painful to line-up but you did well and have an awesome looking unit on the table. Hope it performs well for you also in your games:o)
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There, some reinforcements for my Chaos. =)
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more dragon ogres?? how many points are you planning to field for chaos?
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I never use them as Dragon Ogres. =P
With my understanding opponents I proxy them as Chaos Marauder Horsemen. When I paint my proper Horsemen figures, then I'll use them as Chaos Chariot figures.
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Latest efforts!
My 2nd Chaos Chariot unit, finally figured out the way to put the riders.
Also a 2nd High Elf Giant Eagle unit. For this one I tried to raise the central figure up by mounting it on the plastic lion head ruin piece you get with the Warhammer 28mm White Lions set. Didn't quite work but at least it still fits in the little figure boxes I have!
I painted them up to look like Harris Hawks based on a pleasant experience I had with birds of prey at a small centre near where I live:
http://theancienttrack.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/hawk-walk-feathers-fur.html
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Are you the guy with the owl?
Great painting!
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Yep, that's me, needing a haircut, ha ha!
Thanks.
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curiuos on the chaos chariots. I have been trying to figure out a transport for my armies and when I come across my chariots, they do NOT fit side by side because of the spikes on the wheels, does yours do the same? like they are just too wide.
I hope I assembled them incorrectly and maybe I can fix something?
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Good stuff as always. What's your total progress as of now? Surely you must be closing on 2k of each army?
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Counting the Dragon Ogres as Marauder Horsemen:
Chaos Army, 2270 points
Warmaster Armies
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450 - 3 Chaos Warriors
270 - 3 Marauder Horsemen
600 - 3 Chaos Knights
120 - 4 Chaos Hounds
190 - 2 Chaos Chariots
65 - 1 Harpies
110 - 1 Chaos Spawn
125 - 1 General
160 - 2 Hero
180 - 2 Sorcerer
But that is a list without Chaos Marauder Infantry, which I have been digging out, dusting off and undercoating along with (this evening) the Horsemen. So it is STILL not a legal painted army. =P
As for High Elves, they are very unbalanced and rudimentary, need 2 more spearmen and 2 more archer units at least, then some Reavers. Not sure I'd take all this command as well when it takes up a quarter of my points!
High Elf Army, 1540 points
Warmaster Armies
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120 - 2 Spearmen
440 - 4 Silver Helms
190 - 2 Chariots
140 - 2 Giant Eagles
130 - 2 Elven Bolt Thrower
180 - 1 General
160 - 2 Hero
180 - 2 Wizard
EDIT: Viz. Chariots. They are awful to assemble and yes, they do not line up at all. Goblin Wolf Chariots are even worse. =-P
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Some people seem able to have a hundred models on their table at the same time, and diligently batch paint the whole lot.
Seeking to imitate that productivity, I have attempted to do the same with my Warmaster, but have met with limited success.
10mm painting is so fiddly that without the "hit" of seeing a unit finished, you feel like everything you're doing is stretching out forever when you try to paint multiple units. At least, that's my feeling of it right now.
In any case, here are 3 finished Chaos Marauder Horsemen units, which I believe have been sat on or near my table for a good two years. :-X
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yep I know that sensation. But, I had to say that mauraduers and marauders horsemen are the more time consuming units I had ever paint. The sculpts are so great but full of details and difficult to paint.
Good work with the horsemen!
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Great results! Like the freehand on the banners. I get what you are talking about ;D It is really soulcrushing work painting units in bulk. Sometimes you get mini's that just work (my gobbos was a joy) but when I painted the orcs, trolls and ogres I hit periods of time when I just couldnt get myself to paint anything. Just felt like nothing happened anyways so Bleh!
I am not sure painting bulk always help with getting quicker results, but I believe it helps with keeping the results consistent. I am not even sure the results are better than if you painted unit by unit. When painting bulk I usually get tired close to the endline and that's when I get a bit sloppy or lazy...
I have been thinking about trying to paint unit by unit and keep track of every step I take so I can replicate and keep it all consistent that way instead... Bu dunno... It kinda works the way I have it now - even though it can get very very boooooring!
But anyways - very nice results and I like the choice of colours :)
/Mlkr
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They're looking suitably vicious!
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Bravo. They look great.
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Liking the continued blue/red & oxidised metal look.
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Thanks for your kind words, guys.
I use Dwarf Bronze (old GW range) for the coppery armour, but it's not going to last forever. I have to decide whether to try the new high pigment GW copper / bronze, Hashut Copper, or try the Game Colour Vallejo option eventually.
I used to use a diluted Hawk Turquoise as a "verdigris" wash, but I got lazy and have the new GW "Nihilakh Oxide" which is probably a bit too bright but not bad.
After finishing the horsemen I completely collapsed and felt swamped with other stuff, uninspired. I cleared my desk and told myself to do a single test strip as a template, same as I did with the horsemen.
This is the result.
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Looking really good. I have more or less a rule: to not paint the same unit (figures) one after the other... I remember I paint mostley the goblins of Bofa at once... and I got crazy... I take ages until I took the brushes again, so I decide to paint several armies at once and jump form unit to unit. It works for me...
Relax, if necessary paint a little bit other scale or period.
Anyway... The test strip of marauders in blue look awesom
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Yep, very nice as always. The global army will look very nicely.
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Very nice looking marauders! I don't think the verdigris looks bad at all, anything too dark would make it a bit hard to notice on the table. At this scale figures need a bit of help to stand out.
I totally understand the uniform fatigue syndrome, occasionally I paint 6mm Napoleonics for pocket money and the novelty wears pretty thin pretty quick!
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Tell me about it. I tried my hand at a thousand 6mm Great Northern Wars Swedes. Their uniforms are even more boring than Naps after a few units.
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Stormwind...the Tamiya metallics are good also. I always have a few knocking about.
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Finally!
First Marauder infantry unit done. They are very fiddly with lots of little details.
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Well done! only two more left to go!
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Really nice. Go on ! And send us a global picture of the army :)
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They are very nice :)
I especially like the rusted effect. Very effective at this scale!
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I tried taking a full picture of the armies. Not easy without a white cloth or a proper camera but I think me, some printer paper and Photoshop did the best we could!
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Looking good. I always find taking army shots of Warmaster to be tricky but I think you nailed it, simple means or not.
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Your both armies looks gorgeous!
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There is something very rewarding with taking shots like these right? :) I feel rewarded just looking at it *haha*
Great job(s) done and looking forward to seeing more like this ^^
/Mlkr
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Super sweet - really nice basing too - ties them all in together. Really effective use of blue on the chaos chaps - never really thought of them suiting blue (usually thinking red/black/brown) but will have to rethink that idea. Thank you for broadening my horizon.
well done.
cheers
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Finally! Got my 3rd Chaos Chariot unit finished!
I am going to proxy Dragon Ogres as chariots for a 2000 point army so I can have 6 full units of them. Because I'll be damned if I can be bothered painting/glueing one of these nuisances again! (Also chaos chariots are hard to get hold of)
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They look awesome - well done!
I sympathise. I, too have built and painted 3 units of chaos chariots and am struggling to build up the nerve to do my other 3 units (built and undercoated only!)
Dave
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Awesome
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Great stuff! I'm always smug when I finish something that's painful to assemble and a hassle to paint.
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Didn't I get you a unit of these!? ;)
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Didn't I get you a unit of these!? ;)
Yes
-Cracks whip-
Come on, get a move along with your chaos ;-P
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Hurrah!
Two marauder infantry units, complete!
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Very nice! That chaos army must be getting quite sizeable now. Planning to add any more units?
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Thank you!
When I add some more to it, it would be 2 chaos hound units and another hero and wizard to round it out to 3000 points.
For now, I have achieved the objective of a pool of units to make a variety of 2000 point armies from and so I move on to getting another army painted up in a similar fashion.
I've done a couple of test strips for my next High Elf units; Archers and Reavers. The idea is to polish off at least one archer unit to allow me a legal 1000 point army, then gird my lions for more spearmen etc. to make a 2000 point army viable.
It's taken years but then I will be able to put on the show of two proper, fully painted armies clashing over some pretty nice terrain.
And after that the other 7 armies...
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Very nice units indeed! Like the choice of blue and it's well executed :)
/Mlkr
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Im approacing 1000 points of dwarfs if you fancied a 2000 point elf dwarf alliance clash with chaos one friday??
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Al your stuff looks awesome! Very well done, so inspiring :).
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Thanks, all!
I'm closing in on finishing my first unit of High Elf archers, now.
Sorry Gorrin, thought I'd replied already, if you do want to come one Friday, you should defo register on our forum so you can see what dates are on at the club.
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Will do...and yes you probably did!
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Really like the Marauders but they are a real pain to paint, aren't they?
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Thanks, man.
It really felt like painting 28mm chaps. :-X
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Finally finished off four, yes FOUR High Elf archer units for Warmaster, 300 points worth.
Bit too much for my poor little cameraphone lens so might take individual pictures of them or in twos for the blog.
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They are really nice. I long to see the complete army.
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Ooooooo, they look lovely even using a cameraphone!
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That is a impressive work!
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High Elf Reavers!
Thanks, as always, for the kind words!
I once again thought that I could set up a "factory line" to paint 3 units of these at the same time, and once again got sick of seeing them.
I don't know how people do that; line up dozens of stands or models, no matter the scale, and work on them in batches. I just feel like I'm not achieving anything. I need the "hit" of seeing some finished that I can show off or I lose all interest.
So I have finished my first batch of High Elf Reaver cavalry and I am pretty proud of them. Ideally I want to get the other two finished sharpish and then move onto Spearmen so I have a legal 2000 point army.
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I agree. As soon as I get past priming and possibly overbrushing metal if I'm in that kind of mood, I can't work on more than two units at a time.
Loving the pale horses, an excellent contrast to the bright blue.
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Beautiful done!
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Very nice indeed, particularly impressed with the wood effect you've managed on the bows! Great looking unit.
I've almost managed to paint three individually mounted Goblins in probably longer than it has taken you to paint a whole unit! My productivity level sucks.
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I challenged myself to paint a unit a week, this year. Right now I'm on 29-ish when I should be on 35...
However, simply by having that as an ideal - I don't feel like I've failed, I feel like I've succeeded in having a painting rate at least 5 times faster than any previous year.
My most successful periods are when I clean my desk of absolutely every other unit / project, only allowing the one thing means I don't feel despondent about "what comes after".
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I'm a fan of the horses too.. and the banner design, which really suits the tone of the unit. Impressive productivity too!
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Thanks! The banners for my units are actually plastic bits from the 28mm Warhammer kits, some are from Wood Elves, some from High Elf White Lion units.
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Second unit of Reavers completed!
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And they are as nice as the first one :)
Would you picture the whole army now ?
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wow,
another beatiful advance! well done
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I need to paint one more reaver unit and two more spearmen units before I have a proper complete 2000+ point army!
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Finished off these Reavers!
(http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8490.0;attach=5986;image)
(http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8490.0;attach=5988;image)
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Beautiful! And so close now...
/Fredmans
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Very nice!
Is that a diddy little highlight on the tiny jewels, like the one on the horn and sword?
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Thanks guys!
Yes, all the gems on my High Elves are painted very roughly to have that 3 stage effect! Every single spearman in the infantry units has two on his spear, one on either side. The Silver Helms have several on their helmets and on the base of their lances, too.
=-X
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Finally! Dark Elf spearmen finished.
Have completely stalled on Warmaster, my mind is in revolt and so I am painting Blood Bowl for a break.
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Looks great!
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Just snuck these in before new year!
I now have a legal HE army of just over 2000 points (ie enough spearmen and archers for min. unit levels.)
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gorgeous stormwind. Love watching your armies trickle in.
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Dang Storm, those look nice, I hate looking at your stuff as it makes me want to get involved and I need another hobby like I need a hole in Da Ead!
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Yeah, they are really nice. Still nod fond of your blue base, but it's ok. Your army will look great.
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Nice looking stuff!
I like the blue bases. that way you won't loose your models on the tabletop.
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Beautiful stuff! I just don't seem to have the patience for painting ranked troops, I've been trying to paint the same unit of Halberdiers for the last few months.
Once again I envy your productivity and the quality you consistently achieve.
Well done!
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A tally of 3 units finished for the first month of the year.
Not too bad! Command and crossbowmen are next up.
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Lovely colours!
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yep colours are great !
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I love the colours, a "noble" take on dark elves. It will be interesting to see the army develop.
/Fredmans
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Thanks for the encouragement guys!
https://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1540288.jpg
^ I tried to base my Dark Elves on something a bit different - super pale, unearthly skin - like vampires, and weird gold. For the armour I used the new Retributor Gold from GW, washed it with the new Coelia Greenshade - then highlighted with Chainmail. For the flesh it's Rakarth Flesh then after the wash Vallejo Heavy Warmgrey.
I wanted them to look - lovecraftian, nasty, like they marched out of the sea to attack their warmer cousins.
Anyhow - polished off these two last night at 2am when I couldn't sleep. My two crossbowmen units. I have some Corsair models that I might paint up in future to proxy crossbows but right now I'm just trying to scrape 2000 points and say that I've finished another army. =-P
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Wow , looking really good!
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OK! Got something to show!
I'm up to 9 painted units so far this year, now! All 3 of my Cold One Cavalry units and the first Dark Rider unit for my Dark Elves!
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As always, really nice work.
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There has been so much awesome in this thread since I last checked in. Very cool skintone on the cold ones!
Skickat från min iPad med Tapatalk
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Finally! Two weeks late but glad they're done and dusted. Or, I should say, varnished and snow-flocked!
My last 3 units of Dark Elf Dark Riders!
Only things unpainted for DE now are the General, command stands and a Witch Elves unit.
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Really good work on these. A really original and evocative colour scheme. Much more interesting than the usual dark purple and black paint job that most people seem to go for.
Dave
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Thanks, man! I couldn't get excited about purple and black - the only purple I'm using with the DE is on the wings of the manticore.
I am planning on using purple as the uniting theme with the Vampire Counts I have...
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I like the idea of the turquoise color, but i must say this last unit lacks colours. Everything is greyish, base, horses and figs. Maybe horses with a more black colour could add contrast ? They seem dusty just like that.
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Marell, I am having trouble with a new digital camera, attempting to take a good photo and then sort it out in GIMP is not going so well.
Suffice to say that they look a little better in real life. =-P
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Oh ok, of course it suffices !
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Lovely dark elf army! From an aging gamer's perspective, the darkness helps as a reminder: Oh yes, that's the Dark Riders.
/Fredmans
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And now, a change of pace, the first ever stand of Epic infantry I think I have ever painted!
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Hi Stormwind. Glad to see such a good first try. Personally, I came from the other way around. I have painted several Epic armies and just recently tried out 10mm. I still think 10 mm is huge sometimes.
You could have chosen easier armies, though. Force weapons and heraldry in 6mm... I wish I knew better. I have two Grey Knight Thunderhawks in progress ::)
/Fredmans
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Thank you!
I don't think I will really be doing true heraldry, ha ha! I did try a quartered shoulder pad but you can barely see it. I think a simple white / red alternation will be what I focus on, even for the vehicles.
Oh, did someone say Thunderhawks? :-X
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wow, lovely Epic stuff :-) Those Grey Knights are amazing. Where do they come from if this is not a classified information :-)
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I look forward to seeing those T-hawks and T-bolts painted up!
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Thanks, guys! aircraft are low priority right now! Plan is to do the basics that could proxy a codex list first so I can actually learn the rules of the game, ha ha!
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Finished the General for my Dark Elf army! This is the Manticore model but I trimmed the base and put it on a proper round 40mm Renedra plastic base - something that I have done with all my Generals and large mounts. I chopped up a spare High Elf archer from a chariot and a High Elf hero from the command blister to add some casualties...
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Dark elves are by far one of my favourite armies looks wise as well as fluff. These look great and those epic grey knights are sweeeeet too :D Well done...
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Niiiice !!! I love the work on the base. Those poor high elves where used well ;)
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Thanks for the kind comments, guys!
Dark Elf Command finally complete
Warmaster scale Cauldron of Blood, as well as two heroes and a sorceress. <3
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oh man, it would be so hard to play you in a game of warmaster. I would just stare and completely forget where I am for about 30 minutes.
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Nice, nice, nice... Really nice.
We where talking about blood cauldron on the french forum. I will relay a link to your subject here.
Where did you found those nice elf/eldar sceneries ?
The blond elfe looks like a high elf in front of the Epic avatar. Is it a dark elf or a waiting to be sacrified high-elf ?
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Nice use of the Avatar from Epic.
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@Marell
The scenery is form the Eldar 40k range unfortunately, which means you must buy it from "bits" websites. The one by the Cold One rider is from the Dire Avengers set:
http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/product_info.php/eldar-dire-avengers-statue-p-177
The one one with the banner bearer is from the Wraithlord / Dreadnought set:
http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/product_info.php/eldar-wraithlord-weystone-terrain-p-446
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The figure is a High Elf, yes, about to be sacrificed! He is the helmetless loader from the High Elf Repeater Bolt Thrower crew!
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OK so everything is alright with your blond elf. It makes sense ;D
Thanks for the links ! Always interesting to know where to find those bits.
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https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Sanguinary-Priest-2014?_requestid=2642532
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Upgrades
And these are the GW 40k sources for the cauldrons - but buying them is harder because they are in demand - I think I bought both from eBay sellers rather than "bits" sites.
I hope that helps!
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Wonderful stuff, and lots for me to catch up on. Great looking characters and the madness of the epic pauldrons is great. I've also managed to get massively sidetracked by starting an epic force.
Lovely as always.
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Fun fact!: I was going to do quartered pauldrons on the Epic dudes but the little script piece on them meant that it was so fiddly it was hard to see so I stuck to just halved colours.
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Haven't got a great photo of these, might try again at some point, but just wanted to show these off.
It's been boiling hot in the UK, so hot that my "wet palette" is drying out! But I sat down and burned through this one unit that had been giving me trouble. Now I can say that I've finished my Dark Elf army!
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They are nice ! We seldom see them with golden clothes, it's a nice thing you have given them this regular colour.
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Oh dang, been far too long since I posted anything!
Finally dug up my mothballed Epic Space Wolves and having a crack at them. Figuring out basing and paint schemes. This is my first test stand of infantry, now to paint a bunch more!
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Very nice one for a first try !! Go on !
What are your next ones ?
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Full unit of Skyclaws done, and some scouts, too!
They still need varnishing and snow but I'll probably wait until I have some more units done before doing that in a batch.
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Well now, best I brush the dust off this and post some actual honest to goodness, varnished and based models that I can tick off my list.
Found someone who is teaching me Epic at a local club, and we're encouraging one another to paint things! I've decided to focus on my Space Wolves and then some Eldar.
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Nice stuff ! Love the colour of the base.
Don't hesitate to add bigger pictures, and to directly post them here. Thumbnails are boring ;)
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Thanks!
I finished some more old tanks that I've had for years, razorbacks and rhinos!
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What? No unit markings and wold pelts? Slacker....
They look great mate. I can't remember what was original GW models and fan-made now. There's some seriously cool stuff here than I cant recall ever seeing.
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Ha ha, thanks!
I decided to do all the rhinos as Grey Hunter markings - all the razorbacks as Wolf Guard just so they stood out on the battlefield...
Plan is for all heavy support - Whirlwinds, Hunters, Predators etc. to be Long Fang colours.
Speaking of which, a proper photo of the Whirlwinds, as yeah, that other photo is a bit rubbish.
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Nice everything !
About the whirlwind, maybe you could have add a colour on the trapdoors. They are a little bit uniform to me. But aaah it's ok :)
Still excellent bases.
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A formation of Predator Destructors!
I have some annihilators to paint as well...
I had a go at the squad markings on the front but I find them super hard to do. Gave it my best shot, though!
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Nice painting ! Love the snow too.
Shadowing with complementary colour is ambitious. I think it may be better to go that way by melting paint rather than using it as wash in the deep parts of the relieves (don't know if i make myself understandable).
But well, still, they are really nice :)
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I think I know what you mean - I was attempting to copy a much more impressive Space Wolves army I'd seen online. I'm not sure I have the skillset to do it properly but I felt it was a successful experiment.
The snow is the best GW technical, 'Valhallan Blizzard'. It's even better than using the Woodland Scenics snow, which had been what I put on my Dark Elves bases.
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A blister pack from 2012 finally painted, hurrah!
Now I can have two squads of mixed Predators. Not sure how often I'll field them but I'm really proud of them! I think I made the pack markings a bit clearer than the other ones!
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You can be proud, they are great :)
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Thanks, Marell!
I've found someone locally who knows the E:A rules thoroughly and he has been teaching me the rules and also how to properly build lists.
Knowing you're actually going to get a game is a great inspiration for painting old models!
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yeah, always a nice reason to work :)
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Totally agree. Playing games pushes you to paint that next unit/brigade you want to field.... :)
Thanks for sharing.
Dave
(Currently painting 6mm adler napoleonics)
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I thought I would have had this done a couple of weeks ago, blimey.
A couple of space wolf drop pods. They're the original GW ones, but mounted on 40mm Renedra bases as I thought they would get chipped more easily through handling if they were plain metal.
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They are great ! beautifull bases, as always.
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Thanks!
The GW 'Valhallan Blizzard' is so easy to use it feels like cheating. With a lot of the GW 'technical' paint pots I have been very skeptical, but this one is a life saver. Wish I'd had it for doing my Dark Elves in Warmaster!
Polished off two formations of Long Fangs, tried to make them 'pop' visually so at a glance they don't get confused with Grey Hunters.
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They do pop very well :)
The GW 'Valhallan Blizzard' is so easy to use it feels like cheating
Is it the snow you're talking about ? I have never used it. Do you know if it remains well with years ?
With a lot of the GW 'technical' paint pots I have been very skeptical, but this one is a life saver
And what is it you are using ? New GW range ?
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Yes, this is the new range of 'Technical' pots including the blood, Nurgle, 'verdigris', rust and grime effects.
I have only just started using it, but after a few months there is no discolouration or yellowing as far as I can see!
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OK, very interesting. I did not know this Valhallan Blizzard existed. I have just checked a tytorial on yuotube and it seem great.
I will buy and test some. Thanks again ! :)
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The Valhallan Blizzard is the one new GW product I think I'd swear by!
Polished off some Wolf Guard!
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Those look great. Does the snow stuff look wet in real life?
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The snow is hard to describe. I use a small (knackered) paint brush to dip it out and put it on and wet the brush to try and tamp down the snow and make it settle into the pumice grit base rather than float on top.
I experimented with using 'Ardcoat to try and make the snow look more like slush but it didn't work. I'm sure the right varnish or medium might succeed in that, though.
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Righto, finally polished off ten stands of Grey Hunters, with a Wolf Guard leader and a Wolf Priest to boot!
This means I finally have the core of an Epic UK SW army done - two Great Companies of 8 stands each.
I am polishing off some Skyclaws and then want to get to grips with some smaller vehicles. <3
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nice stuff. Working very well. Readable and everything.
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Finally got an excuse to work on some Empire.
I've painted more but I need to varnish and add some green scatter to a few then I'll have the beginnings of an army to show off.
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Very nice, the red and yellow really work together!
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great colours there stormwind, really strong uniforms
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OK so this is not quite Specialist Games but I have been painting some LOTR, a good system that I had dismissed for the longest time.
These are some 3rd party models from Unreleased Miniatures who have an interesting mix of proxies for GW profiles that either are out of print or never got an official GW model option.
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Nice models, great bases as well.
Actually LotR are the only miniatures I kept next to my BFG collection.