Specialist Arms Forum
Battlefleet Gothic => [BFG] Discussion => Topic started by: Madness on July 17, 2009, 11:06:58 AM
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I'm trying to undestand how much is canon and how much is fanfic in the BFG universe, for instance are Eldar Wyrmship canon or is something the guys from tacticalwargames made up? Where did they appear first?
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Wyrmship was designed by Sigoroth at the specialist games forum in 2005. Thus fanmade.
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Maybe someone (Ray ?) can provide us with a list like in the old forum. Official rules - experimental rules - houserules. Anything missing on the list surely is unofficial.
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Mind you, I'm more concerned with the fluff side than the actual gameplay, so if has no rule but has a canonized history, I'm fine.
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Fluff side, you just stick to BFG rulebook, Armada and some of the PDFs at the SG site.
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Official BFG background can be found in the rule books and any articles written by the HA as a whole. (So solo written fleets like the Black Templars are non canon where as the Mechanicus fleet is canon, as it was written and reviewed by the HA). However GW being GW they will change key chunks of background if it suits them (usually for the better).
Cheers,
RayB
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Very interesting, but what does HA mean? :-[
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High Admiralty. The group that decides all things related to BFG. Anything they decide on is official.
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How can I know what's approved and what's not then?
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BFG Blue Book and Armada have the official fluff. Some other PDFs which were in the SG site but not sure if they're still there. Haven't visited in a while.
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Black Library is also canon within the GW universe. But takes position behind a codex but is never untrue.
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Black Library is also canon within the GW universe. But takes position behind a codex but is never untrue.
Black Library material is apocryphal at best, and subversively misleading at worst. Nothing they print can be trusted.
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Black Library is also canon within the GW universe. But takes position behind a codex but is never untrue.
Black Library material is apocryphal at best, and subversively misleading at worst. Nothing they print can be trusted.
Amen.
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Gh. Ok, I give up, I'll never be able to fix the Lexicanum pages source by BFG stuff. Any sacrificial lamb wants to help?
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Admiral and Eddie, your personal stance is not useful. Everything BL prints is official, GW pays money to make BL possible.
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Well we're on about personal stances, Horizon, neither is yours.
They fund the library to sell books, and little more. Gone are the days when the material was reviewed against the god books and creator of the universe granted his blessings. They have stated that they're not in the business of building a consistent setting. Library works are more akin to star trek books than star wars novels.
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Ehm...that isn't my personal view. It is a view that has been given by GW/BL.
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Sorry Horizon but they never gave a definitive"Yes" to your query before. I will agree that the general outline of the history is officially accurate but that's because that's what they had to follow. Otherwise, you'd be reading books where the Horus Heresy never happened. The details of a lot of the books, however, really are very questionable.
If they're ALL official, I want my Dreadnought carrying Land Raider.
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If they're ALL official, I want my Dreadnought carrying Land Raider.
Sorry pal we lost the STC.
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Everything 'published' by GW (i.e. presented by GW as any sort of official GW thing) is canon.
However, canon=!official.
In terms of BFG Fluff, it is wisest to assume that an heirarchy exists with Rulebook>Armada>Online Rules*>Magazine>FOM (Fanatic Online Magazine)>Else, where lots of Else simply isn't 'official' at all.
* The 'short time only' Tau's Commerce Protection Fleet, the Adeptus Mechanicus etc.
Now, as I said, all GW publishes (i.e. something which is GW copyright and sanctioned to be published) 'is' canon. This doesn't mean the same as it does for, say, Star Wars. GW's policy is 'everything is canon, especially the contradictory bits'. So in that regard Squat fleets should be just around the corner.
The rule is a blanket rule which enables them not to enforce (or arguably waste money, time and effort) canon by stressing out over whether a ship is 3km or 3.5km long. One need only look at Dan Abnett. His works are often rather enjoyable reads and they certainly are amongst the BLP's best-sellers, but they often trundle over folks' ideas of canon like a steamroller over some flimsy origami birds.
By the same token, Codices and Rulebooks make mistakes all the time. There's a loose 'hymnsheet' to which the studio attempts to be singing off of, but let's not stress too much, as long as we're in the same ballpark. Or maybe even just on the same dreamscape...
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Xisor is right on the money. There is a basic backbone of the 40K universe background, the rest is quite vague allowing writters of varying recognition not to mention every day gamers to be quite creative.
Cheers,
RayB